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#Atonce

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#16987From: George EllisMar 9, 1991 7:03 PM
To all: I need your help. I just installed an Atonce board in my A500. I have an A501 and a Xetec harddrive with 2 megs. I followed the instructions to the letter including using a grounded antistatic mat and grounded wrist band. The computer booted just fine. Next I clicked on the Atonce icon. The computer seemed to reboot and then nothing. I tried this 3 times with no luck. The computer was still autobooting fine. After an hour or so of trying different software configurations, all of a sudden my computer wouldn't even boot from the harddisk. I was able to boot with a floppy, but I can't bring up a shell or CLI. I'm pretty much dead in the water, as most of my applications are accessible only from the CLI. Did I blow my rom chip or worse. I bought the Atonce from Safe Harbor, but they don't answer their phone (probably closed on Saturday). Can anyone offer any help or suggestions. I'm not very happy at the moment. Thanks. George
#17004From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 9, 1991 11:30 PM
George, First thing…remove the ATOnce…see if everything returns to normal. Then contact Safe Harbour on Monday. Don
#17107From: Richard GraffMar 11, 1991 3:05 PM
George, I would first follow Don's advice and remove the ATonce and try your amiga again. When you said you couldn't bring up a CLI or SHELL, were you trying to do this from your harddrive partition? I seem to remember a couple of months ago I had screwed up my startup sequence and booted from a disk and when I tried using from my harddrive I had the same problem. I have the ATonce and a Xetec drive also and have it working fine. Also, describe exactly what hardware and software changes you made and maybe I can talk you through this. -Rick Graff
#17143From: Don AlderMar 12, 1991 2:03 AM
How well is the atonce working for you and are you using it with a 2000 or 2500 …do you use it with any music programs.. for instance could you run the turtle beach harddisk recording software etc…thanks DA
#17154From: Richard GraffMar 12, 1991 8:30 AM
DON, I am using the ATonce on an A500. Vortex will have an adapter out shortly that will let you use it with an A2000. Once I got over a few bugs using it with my harddrive system, it has worked very well. I have used DOS 4.01, Windows, a bunch of shareware utilities so far. I have also been able to auto boot from my hardrive use my mouse, serial port and printer. -Rick
#17178From: Marion J DelandMar 12, 1991 5:41 PM
Richard… Bob Lipman says you've been a big help to him. Can I quote your experiences (and his) in CROSSINGS? Marion CROSSINGS (Bridgeboard newsletter)
#17201From: Richard GraffMar 12, 1991 8:22 PM
Marion, Quote away <G>. If you can wait a week or two, I'll write a short file about my experiences with the ATonce. -Rick
#17381From: Marion J DelandMar 14, 1991 10:16 PM
Rick… Thanks… My deadline is the 20th of each month. Marion
#17256From: George EllisMar 13, 1991 7:44 PM
Rick: As it happens, there was nothing seriously wrong. The only problem was with me. For one thing, I had the GARY adapter installed. Worked fine after I removed the adapter. The other problem (now don't laugh) was that I had named the MSDOS partition "c" with Amigados instead of with the Atonce software and FDISK. I know this is a BIG blunder, but I wasn't thinking. I went into the partitions program off of my Xetec floppy, turned the c partition off and everything was back to normal. I then reformatted the partition and named it dh1. Everything seems to be working fine. The CGA 16 colors is fairly nice, but it is very slow. For now, I'm running in Hercules interlace. I've got a couple of questions for you, but I will e-mail them to you so as not to bore the public. Thanks for being so helpful. George – via Whap!
#17263From: C. Davey UtterMar 13, 1991 8:49 PM
George, Can expansion boards be added when using ATonce? …Dave
#17299From: George EllisMar 14, 1991 1:05 AM
Davey: The ATonce plugs into the CPU socket. There is no card cage or the like for expansion boards. Craig from ICD said that the Adspeed accelerator could be used with the ATonce, but it required desoldering the 68000 from the ATonce. Also, there isn't much clearance between the ATonce and the metal shielding. It was close enough that I glued a small piece of insulating material to the shielding-just above the ATonce. I can't imagine plugging something in that would raise the CPU even more. The more I use the ATonce, I feel that it does just what they said it would. It's a good product, but it pales next to the Amiga. George – via Whap!
#17313From: C. Davey UtterMar 14, 1991 7:01 AM
So it is NOT possible to use anything in the IBM expansion slots. Is that correct? …Dave
#17339From: Richard GraffMar 14, 1991 2:27 PM
Dave, There are no IBM expansion slots with the ATonce. you may be able to hook your A500 up to the bodega bay and utilize those IBM expansion slots and keep the ATonce on you mother board, but don't qoute me on it. <G> -Rick Graff
#17414From: C. Davey UtterMar 15, 1991 7:04 AM
Don't have an A500, got a 2000. I have an XT Bridgecard in there and a FAX board. From what I gather ATonce can't address the IBM expansion slots and is therefore of no use to me. Better off with an accelerator for the XTBB. …Dave
#17482From: George EllisMar 15, 1991 11:07 PM
Davey: That's correct. The ATonce is a printed circuit board that plugs into the A500's CPU socket. Physically, the board is smaller than a 3.5 inch floppy and contains no slots. Maybe a creative hacker could figure something out, but that is way above me. George
#17483From: George EllisMar 15, 1991 11:17 PM
Davey: That's correct. The ATonce is a printed circuit board that plugs into the A500's CPU socket. Physically, the board is smaller than a 3.5 inch floppy and contains no slots. Maybe a creative hacker could figure something out, but that is way above me. George – via Whap!
#17500From: C. Davey UtterMar 16, 1991 4:29 AM
George, Wonder why I got two duplicate messages from you. Via Whap!. …Dave
#17338From: Richard GraffMar 14, 1991 2:27 PM
George, Have you tried windows with the ATonce yet? A friend lent me a copy so I could see if I would be interested in buying it. I can't figure out what the DOS people love about it, it was slow and not very adaptable in my opinion. I never used any computer other than the amiga since I got the ATonce, and DOS on a whole is a "kludge" when compared to the amiga. Did Craig from ICD say he has tried adapting the ADspeed to the ATonce? It is an interesting thought if it works. I have been wanting an excellerator for my 500, and it looks like with the new "mega midget racer" I might be able to do it and keep my ATonce installed. The "mega midget racer" has a separate slot for the original 68000 cpu and is software switchable between the 68030 and the 68000. With a math coproccesor and some 32bit static ram it should be a real screamer. -Rick Graff
#17484From: George EllisMar 15, 1991 11:23 PM
Rick: I searched my Amigauser.kpt files for Craig's message to me but I guess I didn't keep it. I don't think that he tried adapting the ATonce to the Addspeed but he did say that it would work. If memory serves me, I think he said that it would require removing the 68000 from the Atonce and then soldering a socket on to the board. You then plugged the Adspeed into the ATonce. As you know, that would make it a little on the tall side. After talking with Craig, I think I would go the MMR route. Sounds like it would be easier and the performance would be quite a bit better all $$$$$$ aside. As far as trying Windows out, I haven't. The electrical contractor that I work for is in the process of buying a '486-25 from Gateway Computers and Windows 3.0 is part of the package. From what a lot of my friends tell me, that is just about the power level of machine that is needed to run it efficiently. Also, 4 megs minimum is suggested. Sucha deal. George – via Whap!
#17257From: George EllisMar 13, 1991 7:45 PM
Rick: P.S. The first time that I ran the Fixatcfg program that Xetec sent me, it trashed my harddisk. I got a bad header and disk not validated message. I had to reformat and reinstall my entire harddrive. Lucky for me, I had a recent backup and nothing was lost. The new X-Chive archive program is great. Did you get it from Xetec? It doesn't compress the data, but other than that, it works quite well. George – via Whap!