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Fatter Agnes (1 Meg)

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#51896From: Mike HansonMar 8, 1992 5:28 PM
I recently tried to install the Fatter Agnes (1 meg) chip in my Amiga 500. I cut the trace on J2 and bridged the solder pads as directed. Then bent up pin 32 on the Gary chip… also as directed. Got everything back together and powered up. Ran a diagnostic and was told I now had 1 meg of chip ram and no fast ram… that's the fact since my Amiga only had a meg of memory to begin with. However, when I tried to run various programs with graphic screens, I got a mess. It looked like the images were streaking and bleeding all over the screen…. persistance of images one on top of another. I checked and rechecked everything and can't find my mistake. I pulled out the Fatter Agnes and put the old Fat Agnes back. Then re-soldered the jumper and replaced pin 32 on the Gary chip. Everything is running again as it did before; so I caused no major damage. However, my diagnostic program says the _Blit failed its test (both with the Fat Agnes and the Fatter Agnes installed.) I received an error code of 726 and 730 on various runs of the diagnostic program. This may or may not be involved. I just don't know. Mike Hanson
#51941From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 9, 1992 12:31 AM
Mike, Your first mistake was to pull the GARY pin. That is not a reccomended practice…although I know some folks suggest it as the "proper" way to make the modification. The Blitter is part of AGNUS so if it's not working with either chip..it's a good possibility you damaged the AGNUS socket when you pulled the chip. What kind of chip puller did you use to remove the AGNUS? If the "tweezer" kind of remover…that's more than likely your problem. Don
#52456From: Mike HansonMar 13, 1992 10:09 PM
Thanks for your response, Don. I used the tweezer type puller to get the Agnes chip out. I don't think I damaged the socket. The machine works just like it always did with the old Agnes installed. If there's something wrong with the blitter… it doesn't seem to cause any problems in the original configuration. If I go back in to install the Fatter Agnes, do I just change the jumper at J2 and forget about disconnecting pin 32 of the Gary chip? The instructions I was following seem to indicate that this is necessary to prevent the Exram signal from being tied to ground. If installing Fatter Agnes in a 1 meg machine, results in 1 meg of chip ram and no fast ram, does that present a problem? Do I really gain anything significant by making this work? Thanks, Mike
#52475From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 14, 1992 1:52 AM
Mike, Pulling the pin itself is a bad idea. What you need to do is cut the trace leading to pin 32 on the motherboard. But yes, that connection needs to be cut. There have been some very strange things occur if you pull that pin and leave it just hanging in the air. One user reported everything worked fine until he put the shield back on, then it went downhill from there. Not having any FAST RAM shouldn't cause a problem with a properly designed program. Don
#52504From: Mike HansonMar 14, 1992 1:53 PM
Don, Thanks again! I cut the trace originally when I first installed the Fatter Agnes. I had the image smearing problem when I powered up. I figured I may have cut the wrong trace since the instructions weren't very clear on that point. I soldered the trace back together and pulled pin 32 (leaving it out in the air.) I had the same problem with the screen smearing. After that, I put pin 32 back in the socket and replaced the jumper on J2 and put the original Fat Agnes in its socket. In other words, I'm back to where I started. My machine works fine with the old Agnes… no smearing on the screen. Maybe I got a defective Fatter Agnes? Maybe I should just learn to live with 500K of chip ram! If I solve this quandry, I'll let you know. Thanks for your help! Mike
#52547From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMar 15, 1992 12:10 AM
Mike, It's also possible that you've got one of those 500's that simply won't take the 1 Meg Agnus upgrade. I don't know which motherboard version is involved, but do know there are some out there that simply can't be upgraded. That's one reason that Commodore never authorized the 1 Meg upgrade for A500s. In fact, not only do they not authorize it…they specifically have said that upgrading an A500 WILL void any remaining warranty.