CompuServe Thread

#PC User goes Amiga how ?

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#53426From: Gerhard F. HeidkampMar 25, 1992 2:00 PM
Hi, I have used Compuserve and CIM for some time using my Office PC. Having an Amiga 500 at home now, I wonder how it might be possible to download a communications program for Compuserve and Amiga, using an IBM compatible PC, and then to transfer it to the Amiga. Or, is there a better ( easier ) way to get hold of something like CIM for the Amiga ? Any suggestion welcome, Regards, Gerhard Heidkamp
#53449From: Doug WingerMar 25, 1992 9:40 PM
Gerhard, There's an automated telecomm program available from ATI over in Amigavendor. Look for WHP19G.LZH in lib 9. It's an (almost) fully functional program, with only some of the more esoteric functions being crippled and annoying Guilt screens popping up while using it. The full version cost $49.95US and ATI will tickle it into its full capabilities online upon reciept of the fee. As to downloading from the PC and transferring to the Amiga. If the Amiga has any terminal software with any of the CIS supported transfer protocols, use that to 'bootstrap' to more capable software. If you wish to utilize the PC to fetch the things, you can use a protocol transfer between the machines using a null modem. I recommend you download using the Amiga, though, as things can get complicated. If your Amiga doesn't have any terminal software capable of binary downloads check with the nearest user group. They can most likely get you something to get you started. Files of interest other than Whap! (the ATI program) are the archivers (ARC, LHARC, LZ and occasionally ZOO are the primary ones used here) found in lib 16 here and the terminal programs in Lib 5. I personally recommend BackTalk (BT151.LZH) Once you have the de-archivers and an effective terminal program I highly recommend Whap! It is considered a 'must-have' for effective forum-crawling and will save you quite a bit of money. Be aware that there is a minor bug caused by CIS's recent library software change. The authors are aware of it and reports are that a newer version is in the works as soon as all bug reports are checked. It concerns doing a download 'by hand' rather than using the built-in cataloguing portion of Whap!, so avoiding it is easy. Leave another message if you need additional information or help. Someone, if not I, will gladly answer any questions you have. Doug
#53485From: Gerhard F. HeidkampMar 26, 1992 1:20 AM
Doug, TYVM for your proposal. As I understand now, my problem can only be solved by using one of the following : a) a pc program to write amiga disks on the pc, or b) any amiga program to either read pc disks or exchange data between the machines by null modem or a CIS compatible amiga terminal program Solution a) would be preferred to enter the scene, because i easily could download such a program ( if existing somewhere ) to the pc. Solution b) is a bit complicated here ( Braunschweig, Germany ) because i have not been able to locate a software vendor who understood my problem. It seems, the shops are well capable of selling Amiga games, but … My Amiga came without any software but the two DOS disks. There is a terminal program, but it does not support any transfer protocol, only ascii. Do you think a) is a possible way ? Regards, Gerhard
#53540From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPMar 26, 1992 7:00 PM
You should probably get a terminal program that supports protocols, but I'm sure that's obvious to you by now. You can probably pick up a copy of a program like that locally, and then you can download directly to your Amiga. Then you should be able to download the archive MSDOS1.LZH which contains software to read and write PC disks on your Amiga. If you don't want to buy a terminal program, you might be able to find CrossDos in your area. CrossDos is a commercial program that will allow you to read and write PC format disks on your Amiga. Check out the software store in the area of Fruehlings hotel. They carry Amiga software, probably carry either the terminal program you need, or CrossDos. Steve
#53543From: Doug WingerMar 26, 1992 7:28 PM
Gerhard, There are some commerical programs that will allow the Amiga to read MS-DOS disks available. However, as I'm generally a Mac and Amiga user,so I don't keep track of what's available in that area. There are a number of members here that do have a keen interest in such things, so you'll likely hear from them soon. I don't remember ever hearing about MS-DOS programs that read Amiga format disks, though. If your (un?)fortunate enough to have AmigaBASIC working on your machine, there is a last option available to you. There is a BASIC bootstrap program available. If you do have AmigaBASIC and are running under 1.2/1.3,(I understand it breaks under 2.04) you'll find it in Lib 5 as NEWUSR.MSB. REAd the file and use text capture, edit it if necessary, and run it. That will get you a terminal and the necessary de-archiver. I'm sorry I can't be of more help. Usually, the problem is that the person has the necessary software and needs help in using it. You seem to be comfortable using telecomm software- you just don't have any for the one machine. Doug
#53482From: Alan WheltonMar 25, 1992 11:46 PM
Gerhard, I have an IBM compatible Notebook computer I take on the road with me. At home I have a 500 also. On the Notebook I run TAPCIS which of course allows me to continue to log on to Compuserve, read messages, download files, etc. There is a couple of good programs available that allows you to transfer files back and forth. Two programs that I have are "Dos to Dos" by Central Coast Software (now a division of New Horizons) and a public domain program called "MessyDOS" which can be found within the libraries here. Try files, MsDos1.lzh and Messyf.lzh. Another good one, "CrossDOS". So if I have a program or two downloaded onto my Notebook I just use one of the above programs running on my A500 and read the files off of an IBM 720k floppy diskette, that is loaded in one of the Amiga disk drives. You can go the other way too…use a terminal program or WHAP! , retrieve whatever you want for your IBM PC then transfer the files the other way. Hope I was some assistance…
#53486From: Gerhard F. HeidkampMar 26, 1992 1:20 AM
Alan, TYVM for your help. I think, my main problem is, that my Amiga is just a naked machine with only two Amiga Dos Disks. I think I should look for a pc program to write amiga disks. Do you know such a program ? Regards, Gerhard
#53498From: John Toebes/SYSOPMar 26, 1992 6:19 AM
It is not possible to write Amiga format diskettes on a PC. You definitely want to look into CrossDos. It installs quite nicely on a floppy based system and will give you the ability to quite transparently read PC diskettes.
#53515From: Gerhard F. HeidkampMar 26, 1992 11:17 AM
John, could you please give me an idea about where to get CrossDos from ? Regards, Gerhard
#53582From: John Toebes/SYSOPMar 27, 1992 5:48 AM
The address on the back of my manual says: Consultron 11280 Parkview Plymouth, MI 48170 (313) 459-7271 Certainly they should be able to get you a copy…
#53637From: George EllisMar 27, 1992 7:53 PM
Gerard: E-mail me with your address and I'll send you a disk with a couple of Amiga term programs. With these, you can at least get rolling. George
#53560From: Alan WheltonMar 26, 1992 11:04 PM
Gerhard, Sorry, no I don't know of such a program. But, if that is all you have for your Amiga you can still use the programs that I mentioned before. Good Luck!