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#387 Emulation

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#90973From: Paul LakeyMar 4, 1993 8:31 AM
Does anybody know if its possible to get any of the Co-Pro emulators to work with the 386 BB?. I have tried Q387 but it appears not to like the EMM, anybody know a way of running the Windows emm386 file? Paul Lakey (UK) Enjoying AutoPilot!
#91107From: Michael SheaMar 5, 1993 2:20 AM
Paul, I recently tried to run the FRANKE 387 emmulator for use with Mathamatica for windows. It works, sort of. For some reason mathematica goes all flakey, and a get an 1800 point font notebook window. I have no idea what could be causing that.
#91141From: Paul LakeyMar 5, 1993 1:09 PM
Michael, I have'nt seen FRANKE 387, is it available on CIS?. Do you have to run the Janus EMM?. If I could get the DOS5 EMM386.EXE file to run I think that Q387 would run fine. Paul Lakey (UK) Enjoying AutoPilot!
#91193From: Michael SheaMar 6, 1993 3:10 AM
If you want, I will binary Email you Franke 387. I am checking with Dave at EMC to see about clocking my Board at 25MHZ so I can run an emmulator or maybe a real 387.
#91201From: Paul LakeyMar 6, 1993 5:36 AM
Michael, I found a version of FRANKE on CIS, but when its running I cant start Windows, it just freezes. I also tried a 8087 emulator that did the same. I am assuming that I dont have things set up properly yet. I am thinking that it would be easier to get a "real" Co-Pro, do you know if I can use one of those Cyrix 387 chips?…..they appear to be quite cheap here at the moment. I was hoping to be up my 25 to a 33 mhz, but until its running the way I want it to I will give that a miss. Paul Lakey (UK) Enjoying AutoPilot!
#91204From: Michael SheaMar 6, 1993 6:05 AM
Paul, You are running a standard 386SX BB yes? Well, I am not sure if you can run the Cyrix coprocessor or not. Maybe someone else knows.
#91263From: Dave CinegeMar 6, 1993 6:55 PM
Yes it would work fine…. Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91323From: Michael SheaMar 7, 1993 4:47 AM
Dave, You answer "Yes it would work fine…" to one of my messages and "I don't really know" to another. Unfortunately, I don't know which reply goes with which message. Could you clear it up for me?
#91377From: Dave CinegeMar 7, 1993 7:21 PM
Cyrix FPU will work with a 386 BB Speed when system is set to low Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91701From: Paul LakeyMar 10, 1993 12:23 PM
Michael, Yep I have the CBM 386/ 25mhz….it has a Co-Pro socket but I dont know if 1. A Cyrix Co-Pro will work alongside an Intel CPU 2. What the the pin configuration of the BB socket is called 3. Whether or not a Cyrix co-pro can be purchased with the above pin config Paul Lakey (UK) Enjoying AutoPilot!
#91734From: Dave CinegeMar 10, 1993 6:50 PM
yes 387sx yes It's nice knowing everything ;> Dave Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91926From: Paul LakeyMar 12, 1993 9:50 AM
Dave, Thanks for that, I will go and order one right away…. Paul Lakey (UK) Enjoying AutoPilot!
#91762From: Michael SheaMar 10, 1993 9:41 PM
Paul, I think Dave from EMC said that cyrix co-processor would work just fine with the 386SX bridgeboard.
#91145From: Dave CinegeMar 5, 1993 3:43 PM
Don't use that program! It shouldn't have been on your distribution disk. NO FPU support (hardware or software) is availible when your running at 33MHz. Dave Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91192From: Michael SheaMar 6, 1993 2:53 AM
Dave, I remember you saying that the board had to be clocked at 25 MHz to use a coprocessor. I assumed this meant selecting LOW in the SYSTEM SPEED block of BBSetup. If not, how does one clock the board to 25MHZ. Does the crystal have to be replaced?
#91197From: Dave CinegeMar 6, 1993 4:38 AM
You have to change the 66MHz crystal, to a 50MHz crystal. It's socketed…..and availible to you free. Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91202From: Michael SheaMar 6, 1993 5:45 AM
Ok great. Could you send along a 50 Hz crystal. I think I will be running a few programs that need a coprocessor. Thanks, Mike BTW-When I select SYSTEM SPEED LOW, what am I running at. I know it slows down things.
#91264From: Dave CinegeMar 6, 1993 6:55 PM
Good question…I really don't know Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!
#91203From: Michael SheaMar 6, 1993 6:04 AM
Also, If I decide to get a real coprocessor, I assume I must get a Cyrix one. I think I would do that anyway, as they are cheaper, but just wanted to know of a Cyrix would work. One more thing. I noticed something interesting with the Multifunction card. An included program, called RapidBios (both in .sys and .com version) causes problems with BBSetup. If you run BBSetup with Rapidbio active, the date and time do not appear. All hardrive info is messed up and you can't select the base memory / on board ext memory etc. The first dozen or so time I booted with Rapidbio active, it didn't really hurt anything. But at one point a lost all use of extended memory (it was at this point that I troubleshot and found out Rapidbio was the culprit). I was able to set everything back up ok after removing Rapidbio though. Do you know if there is a workarround for this?
#91265From: Dave CinegeMar 6, 1993 6:55 PM
Hmmmm….never heard that one before….might want to get a hold of a generic bios program…..it might also be that it is conflicting with the setup…..try turning VGA shadow off, and running rapidbios. Elite MicroComputers – via Whap!