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#Hardware Combo's

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#37100From: FRITZ B. HARRISMar 11, 1993 3:12 PM
Hardware Questions: 1. Anyone have any experiences good or bad using an ATI Mach 32 w/2 meg ram graphics board using 486/66 local bus, with 3d Studio? 2. Anyone find any "real" advantage using 2-4 meg cacheing hard disc controller card? Seems to me the only real advantage comes if you don't have enough ram. Regards, Looking for New Hardware
#37114From: Alexander MathysMar 11, 1993 5:41 PM
Fritz: I'm using ATI Gr. Ultra Plus, 2MB (similar to the 'pro', but DRAMs, no VRAM's, also Mach32 chip) on a 486/66 _ISA_ board (no LB). So far, I'm very happy with it. But you shurely have to check the ATI forum for the latest news…….Windows driver problems drived some people mad. The Vibrant drivers for ACAD and 3DS for the ISA-board are perfect (24bit up to 800×600)….. Regards……………………………..Alexander.
#37123From: FRITZ B. HARRISMar 11, 1993 6:43 PM
Alexander, Thanks for the reply. Windows is not in my vocabulary (DOS Codger). Where did you get the Vibrant Drivers? Thx F.B.H.
#37150From: Jack Bayt [Vibrant]Mar 11, 1993 11:41 PM
Fritz – Drivers for the ATI board are up on the ATI BBS, considering that these are from Sept, they work great with R12 and 3DS. Most of the changes since the Sept release has been into R12, but 3DS has also been reworked for greater performance and usability. If you want the best, a low cost upgrade to our retail ProRes/3DS or DLXpress is the ticket to great 3DS performance, they will work on almost all of the board out there and the few new boards not yet supported will of course be. One of the problems that folks are reporting with the ATI board is playing back flic's inside of 3DS. This is currently outside the driver ability to correct and actually affects many boards. Some have solved it by using the updated VESA.COM drivers from ATI. Best solution is to put AAPLAY in the program menu<g> Both the ATI and the Herc boards make excellent solutions. One of the differences in the companies is that Hercules has been in the CAD business for along time and their folks really know it. ATI has updated windows drivers on their BBS that resolve most if not all of the windows driver. Good Luck – Jack Bayt – Vibrant
#37120From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Mar 11, 1993 6:00 PM
Fritz, I sent both my ATI's back … Windows drivers stunk, and the VESA driver would make my machine reboot when I tried running a FLI file in 3DS. I'm now using the Hercules Graphite with good success. I've only had one customer have problems with it and I believe that they have now fixed those. Ang
#37122From: FRITZ B. HARRISMar 11, 1993 6:40 PM
Ang, Thanks for the input! I don't EVER use windows on my 3d Studio machine, you know, a died in the wool DOS type. But I do run flic files. Did you have trouble with running them IN 3d Studio or out in aaplay or Animator Pro?
#37130From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Mar 11, 1993 9:50 PM
>> in 3DS or AniPro Fritz, Just 3DS which was pretty weird. Anyway, ATI is a very frustrating company to deal with … you can't get through to their tech support .. when you can they really aren't very helpful. On the otherhand, the guys at Hercules are available and helpful and eager to support their customers. Even the one customer who had a problem was impressed with Hercules' efforts to fix his problem … he simply didn't have time to work thru them. Hercules should be shipping thier VL-bus-2MB version of the Graphite card. With all these factors, I'd say its worth the wait. Hea, Jim Carlson … whens the latest shipping date on the 2MB-VL-bus Graphite Card? Ang
#37161From: Jim CarltonMar 12, 1993 5:41 AM
Ang: More hardware delays (not ours, one of our suppliers). Looking more like late April for the 2MB version. We'll know a little more on Monday or Tuesday when the latest batch of prototypes get delivered from the assembly house. The 1MB version is getting a shakedown cruise on a bunch of different motherboards, but its virtually ready to go. Software is almost done, and we've just got to isolate a few weird problems with some of the 50MHz VL-Bus systems. Should be out by the end of this month, worst case. As always, I'm lurking and ready to help! <G!> Jim Carlton Hercules Computer Technology
#37191From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]Mar 12, 1993 12:01 PM
>> isolate a few weird problems with some of the 50MHz VL-Bus systems Jim, I thought that the DX-50's were incompatible with the VL-bus timming? Ang
#37232From: Jim CarltonMar 13, 1993 12:02 AM
Ang: So did I, but I _saw_ the Graphite VL running in an Orchid motherboard at 50MHz (you shoulda seen the evil looking heat sink on the CPU!). Reports are, we should be compatible with some of the 50's, but not all. Great, I just love that kind of a hassle…"which version of the 50MHz XYZ motherboard? The UMC chipset one? Oh no, we've only used the Symphony version, I guess it won't work. Please don't scream at me…" Although, we do have the ultimate cop-out: the VESA spec doesn't allow for a connector on a 50MHz bus. It officially calls for up to 2 connectors at 33MHz, 1 connector at 40MHz, and 0 at 50MHz. Our Engineers are trying an experiment to find out if changing out some components to faster version will help. We don't really want to have to support the 50's, but the market wants it, so we gotta give it our best shot. Unfortunately, it's a lot of retrofitting and testing —> time consumer, in a BIG way. Jim Carlton Hercules Computer Technology