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#43142From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 15, 1993 9:32 PM
Well, it's Monday morning and all is closed and everybody is still trapped; roads beyond the main drags are impassable because in between the 26" of snow in two batches (front and back side of the storm) it changed to freezing rain, putting ice under everything. It was the lowest barometer ever recorded in North America at or near sea level, by the way–28.23 when it hit NYC. Very weird, particularly since some of it was a thunder and lightning blizzard, and in a snow thunderstorm precip falls in the same amount as it does in a rain thunderstorm–only 1" of rain is 6" of snow! Not too bad around here, though. Lots of contractors live in these hills and one just down the road has his own bulldozer, so I should be completely dug out by later on today, and it's supposed to be in the forties tomorrow and the mid fifties by Wednesday. With nobody traveling there's been little real damage here and we're built for these shots, so we had no electricity problems (the electricity only goes out here on clear, warm summer nights for absolutely no reason whatsoever) and about the only folks who will get creamed are the peach farmers who get creamed every couple of years anyway. Most bizarre was Columbia, Maryland, just west of Baltimore. In the middle of the worst of the blizzard Sunday morning they had a 2.7 earthquake! Not exactly a biggie, but it wasn't something they needed (particularly since until recently they never knew there was any kind of seismic activity there). I still think there may not be; that's been heavily developed and I wonder if they just undermined some limestone or water far below. Well, it panicked several ex-Californians worse than the storm! Biggest problem will be getting milk for the baby. I expect to be able to get out later today with no problems, but the big milk areas were harder hit than us and may not be able to get to the stores yet….
#43174From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 16, 1993 2:02 AM
Jack: Well, this is going to be the talk for the coming century. "Why, I remember the storm of '93…" I just can't believe Florida. First Hugo rips up the south end and now this storm rips up the north end–and floods most of the west coast to boot! You talk of Disneyland, I wonder what happened at Disney World. I watched one poor guy on the news who said that up until 2 a.m. the forecasters were saying 20 mph winds and cold. The next thing he knew they were up to their kneecaps in seawater and the next wave took their house! Except for power I wasn't too concerned about you folks in the boonies. Y'all are a pretty sulf sufficient bunch–bulldozer, you say. And the pantywaists in D.C. are crying over a foot of snow. -Ed
#43264From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 17, 1993 5:20 AM
Well, the schools STILL aren't open here, which makes everybody except my oldest son unhappy, because the school bus route through the valleys and back roads isn't safe yet. With more rain and overnight temps near freezing, we're not sure just when things will get back to normal here. Florida got creamed; Florida gets creamed more than it likes to think (sort of like California and big quakes) and much more than it prepares for. The scandal is that the folks in south Florida still are living in temp quarters, trailers and such, this long after Andrew! I've often said I'd love a place on the water, but every once in a while a storm like this last one or a hurricane comes up and you remember why you're on the highest ground around. I'm supposed to drive up to New York for an SF convention this weekend; I hope things will level out enough for me to make it up there and back again. Snow doesn't bother me much, but this ice is a terror. Raining all day today and then it'll freeze solid tonight.
#43280From: J. RylanderMar 17, 1993 11:20 AM
Speaking of Quakes in CA……After growing up there, I find it entirely amusing when the folks in Columbia, MD became so frantic after a few minor tremors…..The news even began reporting emergency procedures if the "Big One" should hit……Give me a break {g} About 10-15 pages of California telephone books are devoted just to earthquakes. We had drills in school, akin to the old "We're under attack" drills. According to the experts, Columbia may have a minor fault that will occaisionally act up…..So the East isn't immune….Stopped a lot of California jokes at the office {g}.
#43419From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 18, 1993 11:07 PM
Yes, it's just more of the usual panic. I thought the "what to do if the big one hits" spots on the local news were hilarious. My wife and I almost died laughing at them. I guess they're terrified in Columbia that they might get a really big one, like maybe 3.5…. There are two eastern faults that are really serious. Both run essentially east-west and go all the way to the continental edge in the mid-Atlantic. Those are trouble. One's in northern Quebec and can go to magnitude 7, the other is in and right through Charleston, SC, and it's been as mean as the other two of the Big Three–the San Andreas and New Madrid. We are not on a continental boundary here, and the faults we get are small and tend to be caused by new folding, as the plate is being pushed westward from the mid-Atlantic. The folding is quite slow and steady and so faults don't tend to be large, severe, or all that deep. The most famous fault in the area is the Chester Fault in eastern Pennsylvania, which goes off almost like clockwork with 2.5 to 3.2 quakes every few years but never anything more. The kind of slippage you have on a fault boundary such as the San Andreas or one so huge it extends to the continental boundary almost 1000 miles out in the ocean like Charleston is simply not likely here. Even in prehistoric times the geologic evidence shows slow extrusions not massive cracks and eruptions. But, then, we always used to crack that Columbia was Marin County East. Now we know that the Rouse Company meant that they were going to do it literally….
#43340From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 18, 1993 1:21 AM
>>Snow doesn't bother me much, but this ice is a terror. Raining all day today and then it'll freeze solid tonight.<< Jack: Talk like that is music to my ears. It just reinforces my decision to move and never look back. I shudder when I think I almost moved to Florida instead. (Too pedestrian, too red-neck and the infrastructure sucks) I read some time ago that 80-90% of the US population lives within 25 miles of an ocean. I think the rest live on flood plains and in trailer parks. We never learn. -Ed
#43420From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 18, 1993 11:07 PM
I live on a mountain. Or, at least, a high hill about as high as those in San Francisco overlooking a mile-wide valley. There's something wrong with almost everywhere anybody considers liveable. I'm not so much worried about the storms of Florida but the bugs and sink holes are far too much for me. The place is a subtropical swamp and no amount of paving over or cosmetics is going to change that. On the other hand, they've determined that Maryland's winters are just slightly too cold to support killer bees or flying cockroaches while all of coastal California is not. The storm that just passed (boy went back to school today) was indeed the Storm of the Century, and almost on schedule–the last one of this magnitude in winter was 1888, the one before 1777. I'll be gone before the next one, and we don't have much hurricane or tornado or other such effects here, are on solid ground, and it's no big deal. San Francisco has a few problems for me as well. It's as humid as here so it does my arthritus no good at all, and is one of the few places where, in mid-July, you can be discovered frozen to death overnight beneath a blooming rose bush. Here, at least, the weather's never boring and we have the top weathermen in the nation here (we're on the jet stream and climatoligical boundaries). Either you wind up in a mental home or you become a big shot forecaster–most of the major weather services are founded and headed by veterans of here, and all the major network weathermen were once local here. Here it can snow on opening day but hit 70 in January; after a day today when it didn't get to freezing we're due for upper forties tomorrow, fifties Saturday, and possibly sixties by the start of the week. In May we suddenly get hotter than the Caribbean and stay that way until the end of September. Makes things interesting.
#43522From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 20, 1993 4:07 AM
Jack: I've read that there have been studies showing that the human machine operates best at temperatures between 45 and 75 degrees F. That's just about what it is here. You can count on fingers and toes the days it strays outside of that range. You're right that no place is perfect. If I had my druthers, I'd travel where and when the weather suited me. BTW, saw your letter on this months disk. -Ed
#43700From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 22, 1993 4:25 AM
Yes, I notice that mine and another letter with similar sentiments showed up. I didn't think the nerd really answered the points and I hold the NAUTILUS editors ultimately responsible for what's printed and they were conspicuously silent, but by the resolution it appears that I and the other fellow represented a rather large segment. Now, if the nerd wants to use his/her own name and come on HERE and argue politics, we're all game–but we'll have equal opportunity of access and reply in this sort of environment.
#43421From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 18, 1993 11:07 PM
By the way–you heard anything from Corel on the new project yet? I haven't.
#43523From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 20, 1993 4:07 AM
Jack: I talked to Bill C. yesterday. They're putting the finishing touches on it and it should ship as soon as the docs and discs are duplicated. -Ed
#43701From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 22, 1993 4:26 AM
The only reason I wondered about it was that I received about a week ago the big mailer from Corel on their huge conference in Washington, D.C. in mid-May, the climax of which is supposed to be the world premiere and intro of the very product that, as of almost April, we haven't even gotten in beta yet!
#43906From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 24, 1993 1:03 AM
Jack: I know the fellow who is putting on the conference. Although the references were couched in vague terms, I believe that all that will be shown is an advanced Beta. Early Betas have already been made available along marketing channels I will probably join the forum section tonight and see what the latest is. BTW ver 3.0 was premiered last year in one of the regional seminars that Rick holds in California. -Ed
#43922From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 24, 1993 1:24 AM
I'll check out the new section once I learn what number it is and can stick it on TAPCIS.
#44026From: Edward L. WaldorphMar 25, 1993 3:16 AM
Jack: It's Section 11 -Ed