CompuServe Thread

windows/mscdex conflict

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#43536From: Kevin E DavisMar 20, 1993 8:37 AM
Jack, I have the weirdest problem with my new CD-ROM and Windows. It started just after I installed my CD-ROM and it happened for the first time after I loaded MS Bookshelf and rebooted. The computer would go through all of config.sys and autoexec.bat, show the Windows startup screen, and then show a distorted version of it and go immediately to a cold boot. I thought it was related to the Word 2.0c/Bookshelf cd because it would hang only when that cd was in the drive. Then it started happening with other cd's. Today it happened with no cd in the drive. I thought of something Jerry Pournelle wrote in March Byte, and added an /e after mscdex. Sure enough, it now works fine. Take the /e out and it hangs. Put it back in and all's well. The strangest thing is this: I have no expanded memory. At bootup when it gets to mscdex in autoexec it says "expanded memory unavailable, mscdex version 2.21." Even so it does the trick. – Kevin
#44002From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 24, 1993 10:20 PM
Well, everybody really has some expanded memory if they have a stock 640K system with video; it's possible that it's sticking itself in that small unused kernel above 640K but before the 704K video kick-in. Having now waged the battle of SCSI-2, though, I can tell you that much of this is like Chinese food–if it tastes good, don't ask what the little black things are. By the same token, if it works, don't question it.
#44201From: Matt SeitzMar 26, 1993 6:41 PM
Sounds like you're confusing Expanded Memory with Upper Memory. Everyone with video has a form of Upper Memory. Not everyone has Expanded Memory. Upper Memory is memory located at addresses between A000 and FFFF (between 640K and 1024K). Expanded Memory is memory that has no fixed memory address, but is swapped into and out of a portion of Upper Memory by a combination of special memory controller hardware and software. MSCDEX can use Expanded Memory. It cannot, by itself, use raw Upper Memory.
#44238From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 27, 1993 3:24 AM
Well, yes, you're right. I'd forgotten. My memory manager CAN use the upper memory and I'd forgotten that this isn't a default.
#44208From: DOUG LUUMar 26, 1993 7:45 PM
Re Chinese food and the little black things. You should ask what they are; otherwise, you may be eating dead FLIES without knowing it.
#44215From: larry buckmasterMar 26, 1993 8:58 PM
Yeah, but monosodium glutamate makes EVERYTHING taste better.
#44239From: Jack L. ChalkerMar 27, 1993 3:24 AM
Only in strange restaurants. I trust the chefs I usually patronize. At least, if they're letting flies get in, I've never suffered any ill effects from the added protein….