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#Writing MS-DOS on Amiga

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#135202From: Christie HornMar 7, 1994 6:52 AM
Very basic question: writing MSDOS graphics files with an Amiga 4000. I have read the manual but I am still unclear. How do I take the Amiga formatted disk , turn it into an MS-DOS disk and write to it? Do I re-name it? Will it automatically reformat it to MS-DOS when I format it? Do I go into Directory Opus and copy the AdPro converted IFF and Postscript files to it? Your help needed urgently on this embarrassingly basic matter. Christie Horn
#135217From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 7, 1994 12:31 PM
Christie, You cannot use an Amiga formatted disk in your MS-DOS machine. Format the disk on the MS-DOS machine. Then put that disk into your Amiga and your Amiga drive can write to it in MS-DOS format if you use the right device name. I think that device is PC0: for MS-DOS disks under the OS system in the 4000, but I don't have a 4000. On older machines, it was called DI0:. It is also possible to format disks in MS-DOS format on your Amiga, but I don'T have a 4000 manual, so I cannot help with that. On my older machine, I must use Mformat and DI0:, but I suspect it has changed a little in the new system. —Betty
#135247From: RICK GERENMar 7, 1994 8:39 PM
a b Christie: Since you have a 4000, you also have "cross-dos" as part of your operating system. Make sure the "cross-dos" icon is in your WBStartup directory. Now, when you put a floppy into a drive, you should see two icons df0: and pc0:…..df0 is AmigaDos recognition of the floppy, and pc0 is the same physical disk being looked at by "cross-dos" as an MS-DOS disk. If the disk is already formated, question marks (???) will appear after either df0: (indicating it is AmigaDos format) or after pc0: indicating it is AmigaDos format. If you wish to format the disk as an MS-DOS disk, simply click on pc0: and select "format" from the "icons" menu. You will be prompted if you wish to format the disk as 720K ( or with your 4000, perhaps as 1.44K). After formatting, you can rename the MS-DOS disk if you want…I usually use a name like PCDISK1 to make the distiction from Amiga Disks. You could also format the disk in an MS-DOS machine if you have one. Once you have the MS-DOS disk formatted, it will appear as an icon pc0: without question marks. To save file to the disk, simply use the "save as" command in the application; choose pc0: as the destination and "voila"…your file will be on the MS-DOS disk. You can do this with text files, graphics files, spreadsheets easily exchanging information between Amigas and MS-DOS machines. Good luck! Rick
#135248From: RICK GERENMar 7, 1994 8:44 PM
Christie: In my previous message, the line <question marks (???) will appear after either df0: (indicating it is AmigaDos format)> should read …..(indicating it is MS-DOS format)…. SOrry 'bout that. I don't know how to edit my messages in the Amigausers forum with this dumb 286 machine. Maybe Betty can tell me. Rick
#135296From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 8, 1994 10:36 AM
Rick, There is a very cumbersome way to edit messages from a term program, but why not get yourself an automatic program that will make life easier and cut your bills here? For a 286, your choice is more limited than for some, but in IBMCOM, Library 1, there is one called ATOSIG.EXE that will work on your machine. Not as many-featured as the newer ones, but it works on the older machines, and most newer ones don't. I'm not sure, but I think OZCIS1 will work on the 186 machines, too. You will find it by typing GO OZCIS. I cannot recall for sure, but I think OZCIS1 is in Library 1. I know that the newer OZCIS2 (big resource hog – requires 386 and really wants 486) is in a different directory. Both are still supported, though. OR, you could use an Amiga online, and use the wonderful AutoPilot!! <g> —Betty
#135614From: RICK GERENMar 11, 1994 9:02 PM
Thanks Betty. I like the "why don't you use an Amiga" proposal best. I am on the verge of buying a new modem, and this one will be an external model I can use on my 2000. Thanks again!
#135623From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMar 11, 1994 10:29 PM
Great, Rick. That really is the best way – especially if you can use AutoPilot. —Betty
#135324From: Jeff SchweigerMar 8, 1994 6:51 PM
Rick – Following up on Betty's response to you, TAPCIS is another automatic message program for CompuServe for MS-DOS machines (that should work on a 286). You can type 'go tapcis' for info. Jeff Schweiger
#135280From: Christopher TolmieMar 8, 1994 6:05 AM
Christie, The PC0 icon must be moved into the DOSDrivers directory which can be found in the Worbench partition (SYS:), of your hard drive. So Drag it from its storage directory and drop it on the DOSDrivers drawer icon. While your at it double-click on it to MOUNT PC0: to use it now, or warm boot your computer to activate it. Don't put it in WBStartup, that is to start commodities like a screen blanker, Magic User Interface, etc. not for system software like CrossDOS. Since you have an A4000 you should also have a 1.88MB floppy drive and can read/write directly to MSDOS 1.44MB high density disks. You are limited to 720K like most of the older Amiga owners. However, some of us "older amiga owners" have since added the HiD drive. 🙂 SYS:devs/DOSDrivers/PC0 You an rename your MSDOS formatted disk anything you like but are limited to the MSDOS naming conventions of eight.three, eight character name plus a three character suffix. You can use any directory utility or Shell you have to copy files to the floppy. Are you familiar with DOS on an MS-DOS box? Same for AmigaDOS copy Work:ADPRO/picfiles.IFFF pc0: Copy Work:ADPRO/pic#?.#? PC0: copies all files in ADPRO starting with pic. Christopher