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#Ministry

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#90669From: Tim c BrananMar 12, 1994 1:14 AM
<<Did you know that Ministry was a total pop band at first?>> Heh! That's funny. It would be worth it to dig it up. I think I would have to hear it to believe it. I never would have guessed from what stuff of theirs I have heard. I assumed they were a punk band that "mellowed" out a bit. Tell me they didn't wear spandex, please! 🙂
#90690From: John TissavaryMar 12, 1994 3:10 AM
Alan Jourgensen was like an american Howard Jones – by his own admission! John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#90692From: Tim c BrananMar 12, 1994 3:43 AM
Oh, the humanity! (g)
#90783From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 12, 1994 6:26 PM
John, I like the Ministry quite a lot, although I don't have any of their cd's yet. They had a really good number called something like "Jesus built my hotrod" or "the Devil stole my Hotrod". Do you know it? It's the faster industrial/speed metal song I've ever heard <g>.
#90793From: John TissavaryMar 12, 1994 7:37 PM
Jesus Buit My Hotrod. That's a great Ministry song. It was one of the biggest selling singles of its time, too, believe it or not. Gibby Hanes of the Butthole Surfers co-wrote that song and did the cool megaphone vocals. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#90823From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 12, 1994 11:37 PM
John, >> Jesus Built My Hotrod. << Excellent song. Have you done any animation for Ministry yet?
#90845From: John TissavaryMar 13, 1994 4:50 AM
No, but I've done animation for the label of an ex ministry drummer (Invisible Records). I'll be doing some animation for Prong, a band with two members of Killing Joke, real soon, and maybe some Skinny Puppy, too. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#90881From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 13, 1994 1:42 PM
John, >> Killing Joke, real soon, and maybe some Skinny Puppy,<< Whoa, dude! I saw Killing Joke at my college (Manchester Poly, UK) in 1984 or so. They did a great live show. Skinny Puppy? I'm not familiar with them. Sounds like doing animation for bands you'd have to be really abstract and creative.
#90912From: John TissavaryMar 13, 1994 3:56 PM
I love Killing Joke. Skinny Puppy is a very popular hardcore industrial band from Vancouver (they moved to LA a couple of years ago). They'll have a new release coming out in a couple of months (my friend the ex drummer from Killing Joke is the producer). You're right about the abstract creative stuff, and it's been a battle getting to do this sort of thing, because my reel is so commercial. BTW, I've been sick in bed, and haven't been able to get the dubs made yet… maybe I'll give you the tape at NAB, yeah? John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#90916From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 13, 1994 4:33 PM
John, >> BTW, I've been sick in bed, and haven't been able to get the dubs made yet… maybe I'll give you the tape at NAB, yeah? << I may not see you at NAB. I will only be there from Sunday afternoon to Monday evening. I can't miss more than 1 day of work, ya' know <g>.
#90920From: John TissavaryMar 13, 1994 4:54 PM
C'mon, dooooode, we've got to get together. I'll be in Monday afternoon, so let's make sure we run into each other. How 'bout the Adesk booth at 3:30pm? Plus, there's a slim chance I'll come in on sunday. John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#90929From: MARTIN G FOSTERMar 13, 1994 8:04 PM
John, >> How 'bout the Adesk booth at 3:30pm? << Sounds good, as long as I set my watch alarm <g>. >> Plus, there's a slim chance I'll come in on sunday. << I strongly encourage that, since most folk seem to be going for the Sunday night groove 🙂
#90945From: michael polyMar 13, 1994 10:37 PM
John, Just to show you how out of touch some of us are with current groups, I naturally assumed you were talking literally of doint religious animation for the ministry. I couldn't help but laugh when I read it as one of the first pieces of animation I did in Charlotte was for PTL when Jim and Tammy were still at large. Wouldn't you know it, of all the clients we ever had, PTL was the only one to ever stiff us on the bill. When our comptroller attempted to collect, we received a letter from them telling us that they knew God himself had guided us through the animation and that God would provide. Unfortunately, God was a bit short that year and we never collected anything but the letter from the ministry. ministry? never mind. emily littela (AKA Michael)
#90991From: John TissavaryMar 14, 1994 3:05 AM
Oh My Gawd!!!! I am seriously belly aching here over that Jim and Tammy story!!!! Those people are SOOOOOOO predicteable. Wow!!!!!!!!! Gawd will provide <g> John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#91279From: michael polyMar 15, 1994 8:24 AM
Seeing as how God was a little short, the courts ultimately let all the creditors line up for payments and amazingly paid the bill about 5 years late. Truth is stranger than fiction.
#91538From: Dan O'LearyMar 15, 1994 11:50 PM
>> ll be doing some animation for Prong, Prong is cool .. eh hheh ehhe (gratuitous Beavis and Butthead noises) dan
#91573From: John TissavaryMar 16, 1994 3:30 AM
>>Prong<< Yeah, Butthead, they're really cool, eh, eheh, hehehe. I'll bet they have lots of babes and fire and stuff in their videos. That would be cool.
#91772From: Dan O'LearyMar 16, 1994 9:12 PM
>> … Butthead … How did I get to be Butthead?! Relating this to 3d… did anyone out there see the blurb in Animation magazine about the Beavis/Butthead video with Cher? There is some kind of VR theme to the video, where B&B are singing with Cher thru a virtual interface or something silly like that…. ANYWAY part of the video is a 3d rendered B&B thang – can you imagine modeling these guys? what a hoot….
#92400From: John TissavaryMar 19, 1994 5:23 PM
If I remember correctly, there was a phsycedelic tunnel (what a 3D cliche that's becoming) like the one in the Peter Gabriel "Steam" video, and some Lawnmower mannish stuff.
#90964From: ROBERT RITGERMar 14, 1994 12:48 AM
John: You're gonna hate this. The only recording I have of Ministry is a promo EP of "Work For Love" (released in 1983). I used to mix this song in with Kajagoogoo, Blancmange and oh yes – Howard Jones. I saw them play in NYC on Pier 84 back in those days. Bob
#90992From: John TissavaryMar 14, 1994 3:05 AM
No way, I love to hear that kind of stuff. It's such a backwards evolution, and so unusual. Kajagoogoo – oh my gawd! John Tissavary (La Luna cie)
#91143From: Tim c BrananMar 14, 1994 7:47 PM
remember A flock of seagulls?
#91212From: John TissavaryMar 14, 1994 11:50 PM
Man, you guys are trying to set me into a psychotic episode of 80's love/hate melancholy… BUT IT WON'T WORK!!! <g>.
#91229From: Tim c BrananMar 15, 1994 1:26 AM
Let's not forget Wall of VooDoo, Nena, Boys don't cry, Ah-Ha, Culture Club, etc., etc (G). That's all I can remember, I listened to the death-thrash type metal and punk for most of the eighties, so let's see, we got slayer, D.R.I., death, megadeath, Anthrax, bathory, raven, exodus, Corrosion of conformity, black flag, Weremacht, Celtic frost, Stormtroopers of death, the mentors, and of course, Metallica. Any deeper than that, I gotta start diggin into my old records 🙂 so, you ready for the Lithium yet? (g)
#91478From: John TissavaryMar 15, 1994 8:34 PM
I didn't like metal much (I did like hardcore punk, though) back when vynil was big, but I like it now. Metallica's going to be doing some fun stuff this summer, and an album next fall. They're pretty much my favorite metal band, and they're fun to hang with, too (they're local SF boys).
#91497From: Tim c BrananMar 15, 1994 9:46 PM
New album eh? They are one of my favorite bands. I've been listening to them since 84. Only band I've seen live twice and liked both times. Saw em once in a tiny little club years ago on their Ride the Lighning tour, then again on their last tour. I can't believe that was 9 years ago already.
#91540From: Dan O'LearyMar 15, 1994 11:50 PM
>> we got slayer, D.R.I., death, megadeath, Anthrax, bathory, raven, >> exodus, Corrosion of conformity, black flag, Weremacht, Celtic frost, >> Stormtroopers of death, the mentors, and of course, Metallica. Any deeper >> than that, I gotta start cool. I interviewed (and worshipped) most of the bands on that list. Evil Chuck S. of Death lives down the road, eats dinner at the local chicken wing place. He is still suprised when anyone recognizes him. Celtic Frost rules.
#91561From: Tim c BrananMar 16, 1994 1:23 AM
I can't say I worshipped every band I named. Bathory was a bunch of noise, Raven was an arena-band wannabe, and the mentors whole concept was to sing about mysogyny. Good for really irritating people with a boom box, but not much else. Mercyful Fate was good for spooking people about satanisim, except nobody could understand what he was singing about. Same goes for Venom (whatever happened to these guys, anyway?). You listen to Anthrax much? I noticed they gotta new singer. What happened to Joe Belladonna, anyway?
#91773From: Dan O'LearyMar 16, 1994 9:12 PM
Ok, worshipped was a poor choice of words. Actually I wasn't into Bathory, Raven (isn't that the band whose drummer kept oxygen beside the drum set?!), Bathory, or the Mentors at all. I did a metal show on Sat. nights for about 4 years of my college experience. Got to meet and interview just about everyone you mentioned. King Diamond was actually the coolest and nicest guy I met! Very down to earth, but definitely strange. Last I saw, Venom was on K-Tel records… hehehehehe. I use to really like Anthrax … Among the Living was a fantastic album. They really sucked after that I'm the Man single, though. Joe Belladonna is out? He and the drummer made that band. Oh well. They were a bunch of ego-maniac jerks anyway. memories… light the corners of my mind … misty water colored memories… 'cmmon everyone, sing along dan the rambling man
#91816From: Tim c BrananMar 17, 1994 1:36 AM
Anthrax: ego-maniac jerks? I would've never guessed. They seemed like ok guys to me, but then again, I never met them. Too bad. Howabout we all sing a round of "Feelings"? 🙂
#91539From: Dan O'LearyMar 15, 1994 11:50 PM
flock of seagulls… I saw them at the local jai ali place … they wore garbage bags – what a bleak time in the history of music
#91562From: Tim c BrananMar 16, 1994 1:23 AM
This is true, though it would be a real kick to skim the first two years of MTV again.
#91169From: ROBERT RITGERMar 14, 1994 8:44 PM
John: I have a library full of Our Daughter's Wedding, O.M.D., Tin Tin, Thompson Twins, Peter Godwin, ABC, Lene Lovich, Human League, Depeche Mode, and of course if we are talking of "backwards evolution" – DEVO. Lawn chairs are everywhere, Bob
#91213From: John TissavaryMar 14, 1994 11:50 PM
Sounds like my record collection… except I didn't care for most pop oriented stuff. I've got like Nina Hagen, The Contortions (James Black), Jonathan Richman (disgruntled employee?!), all that Eno produced stuff like Talking Heads, Jerry Harrison, etc…, and tons of Eno (my hero).
#91348From: ROBERT RITGERMar 15, 1994 11:54 AM
John: Yeah, I got me some Nina Hagen (Fearless and a promo copy of Cosma Shiva – sounds a lot like the Doors' Changeling don't you think?), some Jerry Harrison with and w/o the Casual Gods, the Modern Lovers and the 'Heads. Trivia Question: What do the Urban Verbs have to do with any of the bands we've mentioned? Although I got my fair share of synth-pop from the 80's my taste was always for the harder edge like the Pistols, Clash, the Jam, XTC, the Teardrop Explodes and the Gang of Four (Now I play Social Distortion really loud as therapy). Although I never really got too into Eno (other than My Life in the Bush of Ghosts) I prefered Wall of Voodoo, Godley and Creme (their album Freezeframe is still one of my favorite albums of all time) in the more esoteric vein. Have you ever checked out anything by Eberhard Schoener? (Ignore this question unless you like the Police) I'll be offering "Invalid Normal Array" as a song/band title to all of my musician friends. I just know I could slam to a song by that title. :+} Bob
#91384From: David RhotenMar 15, 1994 2:38 PM
Wooo! A fellow XTC fan! Alright! Dave
#91489From: ROBERT RITGERMar 15, 1994 9:06 PM
David: I caught XTC in Chicago back in 1982 (Hazel O'Connor opened). The bass line truly jiggled my pancreas when they opened with "real by reel". Their sound was overwhelming but not too loud. Damn shame that they don't appear in public anymore.
#91633From: David RhotenMar 16, 1994 9:35 AM
Ooooo. Can you feel the waves of jealousy accompanying this message?<g> Yeah, Andy needs to get hip-no-tized (as Letterman would say) to get over his stage-fright.
#91477From: John TissavaryMar 15, 1994 8:34 PM
I'll second The Clash, Pistols, Gang of Four, and a few other good thrash bands. I have such a lousy head for names that I forget what bands I like <g>. Of course, I'm a hugeultrabigtimemassive Iggy Pop fan, and what about NY Dolls, Lou Reed, Patti Smith (love her!), and onandonandon… music… ahhhh. The Urban Verbs' singer, Roddy Franz, was the brother of Chris Franz (talking heads, jerry harrison, tom-tom club, eno/byrne, etc… drummer). Scary, huh?
#91503From: ROBERT RITGERMar 15, 1994 10:17 PM
John: >>>Scary, huh?<<< Knowing trivia about the Urban Verbs elevates you to the stature of a Jonas! Thanks to David Rhoten I'm in the middle of an 8 CD jam of XTC. Now I'll have to crank some Urban Verbs. My neighbors must hate my ass, they could be pounding down my door right now and I wouldn't hear them. I have a good friend at a small label in NYC whom I have convinced to slip me a demo tape of a soon to be release single to try my hand at creating my first ever rock video. I still have a long way to go on the animation learning curve. I hope your project is successful. Can you disclose who its for?