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#Firecracker-24 Value?

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#77211From: Jay TruesdaleMar 19, 1994 10:28 AM
How much is a used Firecracker-24 board worth? -J
#77298From: Charles BlaquiereMar 20, 1994 7:29 PM
Jay, FYI, I paid $400 about 1.5 years ago for a used 2Meg FC24. Given the limited software support it currently receives compared to other boards, I feel $250 would be the maximum reasonable amount to ask for.
#77376From: Jay TruesdaleMar 21, 1994 9:11 PM
Well, I'm buying and I was going to offer less than that, so it sounds like I'm in the right ball park. Did the FC24 come with less than 2 meg? I am going to try and dig up a review of the board in one of my back issues. -J
#77710From: Charles BlaquiereMar 26, 1994 10:04 AM
Jay, As for software support, here's a partial list. (One person can't be expected to own every piece of software, so others should feel free to jump in a\with additional examples of Firecracker24-friendly software) The best use of my FC24 is with Imagine. You can render, or do quickrenders, directly to the card — and because of the FC24's genlock-like ability to overlay the Amiga output on top of the 24-bit image, you can see the image being rendered. This makes it easy to see what's wrong with your object and abort the quickrender before the whole image is done. This makes working with Imagine a joy. (Imagine turns the FC24 display on and off as needed, too, so the FC24 doesn't interfere with normal editing) The second program I own which makes good use of the FC24 is Imagemaster R/T; it displays directly to the FC24, and makes good use of the overlaying capability to draw menus and selection areas on the Amiga layer, making for quick feedback when selecting regions. In this case, however, FC24 support doesn't rate as high, since Imagemaster R/T will also do the same on an Opalvision board, or on an AGA or ECS Amiga. (Come to think of it, Imagine also comes in an Opalvision version, but I don't know if 2.9 and 3.0 will offer the same Opalvision support) In the end, I would recommend buying that used FC24 if you don't have much money, and/or you do tons of Imagine work. This was true for me. Blaq!
#77725From: Jay TruesdaleMar 26, 1994 3:00 PM
Vista Pro will also render directly to the FC24 which is kinda neat. -J
#77866From: Ross DavidsonMar 28, 1994 12:44 PM
Blaq I did not know that FC24 had a genlock. If it doe's than that explains why all this time I thought it was over priced I thought it was just a 24 bit board. So I bought Opalvision instead works fine with Imagine 2.9 and it's softwere is realy good. But I'm still waiting to see the rest of the boards and it is starting to scare me that thay arn't out yet. I made this mistake only once before with SciTech Genlock, I bought it when it first came out and three months later they were out of business. Now it doe's not work so it sits here a $700. monitor stand. I took the chance one more time with OV only because it works with Imagine and if the other boards don't come out It will work with Digital Creations Genlock. The next release of Vistapro is suppose to have direct support for OpalVision. The only reason I don't like and will not buy the Video toaster is that it doe's not support third party softwere like Imagine or vistapro, and in my book that makes New-tek pretty Lame! You can't use Imagine you must use lightwave and you can't use lightwave without the hardwere, Not like I would! Well not as long as Impolse is still pumping out new updates that to me blow Lightwave away! So Gang at Impolse keep up the great work. You have few more days before I'm through painting my house and I will be ready to (Rock & Render). Well I suppose this will most likly raise some hairs talking bad about the toaster, But thats good I would like to hear other peoples appion. Ok it's that or I will never get my house finished. LATER! NightStalker
#77890From: Stephen BaileyMar 28, 1994 5:37 PM
Ross, PMFJI, but I know of many programs that interact with the Toaster Switcher, AdPro coming to mind immediately. I see no reason why a third-party application couldn't implement a method (ARexx, probably) to send its output to the switcher. True, your application interface remains on its Amiga screen, but it's the ouput that's ultimately important and worth seeing with the most clarity. And, for doing things like particle animation (which, I know, Imagine implements and LW lacks) there are atleast three programs I can think of that work directly with the LW interface (or, atleast its scene files). I would love for apps like VistaPro to have an option for rendering to the Switcher, or saving FrameStores. Imagine, too. As a LW user, I look at Imagine as a worthy challenger that can only help LW get better. There are plusses and minuses on both sides. BTW, I didn't think you were "talking bad" (my hairs have relaxed), though I think there is a bigger picture involved :^) Stephen Bailey Sawyer & Bailey Film and Video CIS # 72773,2451
#78069From: Jay TruesdaleMar 30, 1994 7:52 PM
I don't believe that the FC24 has a genlock. -J