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#77433From: SyndesisMar 22, 1994 5:45 PM
I just got back from NAB… any questions? 🙂
#77438From: Rick ThornquistMar 22, 1994 7:19 PM
John, Any questions? You have got to be kidding. Screamernet – Is it indeed $1995 for 8 machines? When is it available? Will all platforms be available at the same time? What kind of rendering speed are we talking about on different platforms? Raptor – Can this machine be used as a general purpose computer? What kind of rendering speed are we talking about? Flyer – Is this a Zorro card? How much time can these 1.7 Gig drives handle? 3D-ROM #2 – When? So many questions… Rick – On Autopilot from Vancouver
#77443From: SyndesisMar 22, 1994 8:24 PM
I did have a lot of hands-on experience with the Raptor (nee Screamer) because there was one in the Positron booth, and I helped them with some TCP/IP configuration problems they had. I was very impressed, it offers a speed-up (in very generalized, rough terms) of about $1K per 100% speed-up. It's not going to cost as much as Newtek once claimed the Screamer would be, it will cost more, especially if you need to buy the MIPS LW engine (Screamer Net) separately. I didn't grab a press kit, unfortunately, so I can't relay the fine print. I think it's safe to say, it ain't out til it's out, and anything you hear before that point is strictly preliminary. They did claim that they wanted to make the engine available on Intel, Alpha and MIPS platforms, but no one has ever seen anything but the MIPS version that's hosted under WinNT. So yes, you do have a true MIPS WinNT machine in the current configuration. Because the press release was vague and probably just a trial balloon regarding the Intel and Alpha versions, it's also unclear whether the Intel version would be under DOS or WinNT. The Flyer is a Zorro card, I'm not sure if it's A4000-specific. Probably not. In the highest quality D2-like modes, they claimed that a second of video (with audio) consumed 3.1 megs of hard disk space. The Flyer needs at least three drives, two for video, one for audio. So a 1 gig drive holds about five minutes of video, at those rates… but the level of compression is variable, so VHS-like quality comes down to about 1.8 megs per second, or more like nine minutes of video. Some people claimed to see artifacting in the video. I did not. I think the artifacting you see on any JPEG or MPEG card is easily detectable by any average remote-clicking VCR user, not to mention a video-head. Newtek may have an advantage in that they developed their own software and hardware for video compression, as opposed to so many other vendors who are using off-the-shelf chips. They described the artifacting in their technique as "resembling tape noise", so it's much less detectable to the average eye than the other techniques that were designed for other compression goals. Maybe if someone could point out the artifacting to me, this would make more sense. I'm not going to pass judgement on the Flyer yet. It looks like great fun and a great price. But again, it ain't out til it's out, and the early Toasters for example were very grainy in the transitions as compared to the final shipping product.
#77451From: Adib NasleMar 22, 1994 10:30 PM
If I understand correctly, this new product ScreamerNet, allows you to Network up to eight different machines (a few amigas, a few IBM PC's and a Raptor or two) and take advantage of all their processing power for Lightwave? I need to talk to you regarding the DGN files. Give me a call after 10am or I will call you in the afternoon (Eastern Standard). Adib
#77470From: SyndesisMar 23, 1994 8:04 AM
Although the press releases wasn't definitive, I get the impression that they're planning to sell the GUI-less LightWave rendering engine on other platforms. You probably pay $2000 to get one version for one platform. They did not state they'd make an Amiga version, but you'd think that should've been the first and easiest port on their list! I think there's plenty of people who'd pay for any increase in rendering power – even just the same rendering speed on another Amiga, even a 2x increase on an average MS-DOS box, I'd even venture that if people had a way to get a render engine with *less* than the power of their primary Amiga, they'd buy it – and I guess the existence of LightRave demonstrates that. (I'm at the office 8 am to 7 pm each day, (414) 674-5200.)
#77480From: Rick ThornquistMar 23, 1994 10:30 AM
John, Thanks for all the info. By the way, when are we going to be seeing 3D-ROM #2? Rick – On Autopilot from Vancouver
#77483From: SyndesisMar 23, 1994 12:04 PM
We'll certainly have it ready for Siggraph 94 in July. If all goes well, it'll be ready before that.
#77511From: Peter GreciMar 23, 1994 4:13 PM
Bummer, I was hoping the FLYER was a Standalone unit. Thanx for the info John
#77510From: Peter GreciMar 23, 1994 4:13 PM
I PRAY the FLYER ISN'T a Zorro II card or any other Amiga Card…… I'm hoping it's a Stand alone Box like the IMMIX Videocube……
#77509From: Peter GreciMar 23, 1994 4:13 PM
YES!!!! What'd you think of Newtek's FLYER and also did you show off a Working version of Interchange for Windows?
#77525From: SyndesisMar 23, 1994 6:54 PM
Syndesis wasn't exhibiting at NAB, so no IC / Win.
#77588From: Peter GreciMar 24, 1994 5:11 PM
Bummer.
#77603From: SyndesisMar 24, 1994 9:33 PM
What, you've bought a PC and you're running Windows?
#77653From: Peter GreciMar 25, 1994 3:48 PM
Not yet……….A PC is DEFINITELY in my future tho. Just have to come up with some spare $$$ to PAY for the Beastie. Got a offer of a 486-66DX2 Motherboard yesterday for $460
#77669From: Anthony RamirezMar 25, 1994 8:50 PM
>Got a offer of a 486-66DX2 Motherboard yesterday for $460 I am also thinking of getting a PC in the future but I wouldn't get one unless it had a Ziff socket (CPU expansion) and a VESA local bus slots. I would think that the one you are being offered doesn't have either of these but then again I could be wrong. <<< Tony D. Tracer >>> (Any render time >0 needs acceleration.)
#77715From: Peter GreciMar 26, 1994 11:33 AM
If a ZIFF Socket allows you to put a Pentium Processor on the Motherboard the one I was offered had it. I'm unsure what the Bus Format was.
#77719From: Anthony RamirezMar 26, 1994 1:21 PM
Yes, ZIF sockets allow for further CPU expansion without tieing up a slot. New 486DX2 motherboards with ZIF sockets in the $400 range don't have VESA slots and are 33 mhz, at least the ones I have seen. So if you got a 66 mhz at that price then you got a good deal. <<< Tony D. Tracer >>> (Any render time >0 needs acceleration.)
#77753From: Peter GreciMar 26, 1994 11:14 PM
I spoke to Steve lao who is the one who offered me the MB, it was a 486-66DX2 with a Vesa Bus and a P24T socket to allow you to put in a Pentium at a Later date all for $459, it's NOT a special deal for me either, ANYONE can get it from them at this price.
#78261From: Anthony RamirezApr 1, 1994 9:52 PM
That is a good price! I haven't been REALLY shopping for one but I might buy one for the Mini-Tower case I have. Could you give me the phone # for Steve Lao and company? <<< Tony D. Tracer >>> (Any render time >0 needs acceleration.)