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DCTV Digitizer help

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#14893From: Bill ForcadeJan 12, 1992 12:30 AM
Hi All: I'm having some problems digitizing with DCTV, perhaps someone can offer some advice. I have the hardware hooked up ok, and I can capture images. The problem is 10% of the scan lines are shifted to the right by about 20-30 pixels. I start DCTV and select the digitize button with everything hooked up. At the digitize screen I use the default setting, but click on tape, since I'm using a VCR tape image. I click on the scan button and hit the play button on the VCR. I can then see the VCR images just fine on my A1080. I click on the VCR pause button until I get a distortion free image on the A1080 screen. This image is just fine, no distortion, no weird scan lines, a perfect rock solid picture. (I thought this image was what I could expect in the final saved version). THEN, I click the left mouse button to start the scan. After the automatic scanning and processing, the image that is displayed is very bad. Every 10-30 scan lines, there will be 1 or 2 scan lines that seem shifted 20-30 pixels to the right. This destroys the image. I have tried changing all the buttons tape/lace/filter/quality/ and speed. No change in the result. Why can't I capture the rock solid image that appears on the A1080 before clicking the mouse button to start the capture? Thanks for any help. – via Whap!…….from Chicago
#14907From: Harry CallesisJan 12, 1992 4:26 PM
Bill – I would guess that, unless you have a digital freeze-frame on your VCR, a visually steady image probably isn't. It's a general problem with all slow-scan devices. Digi-View has the same problem. A possible solution would be a TBC (like the DPS Personal TBCs) that will retain the last frame it was buffering if the video signal is interrupted. That way, you play 'til the scene you want is displayed, then hit pause or stop. The TBC will retain the last image and the DCTV should handle that OK. Or, get a digital-freeze VCR. Harry
#14910From: Bill ForcadeJan 12, 1992 8:28 PM
Harry: Thanks for the reply, I'm beginning to think you are correct. Once I use the camera to do a live scan from an immobile subject, the captured image improves significantly. Using the JVC HRS6600U Super VHS VCR or the Olympus VX-S405 super VHS Camcorder VCR section (while either unit is delivering a rock steady image in paused mode) produces absolute garbage. I know these are not professional video units, but they were among the very top for consumer gear less than 2 years ago. If these units won't produce an acceptable DCTV image in pause mode, then I seriously question what consumer units would do so. Nothing in the DCTV promotional literature, the manual, or the magazine ads mentions either a TBS or digital freeze frame at all, much less indicates that they are reuired equipment. The DCTV manual says,"DCTV's "slow scan" digitizer uses any color video source, such as a video camera, still video camera, VCR or laser disk, to capture a full color composite video frame in about 10 seconds." (page Intro-2). I seriously question the accuracy of that statement based on the garbage images I can capture on my equipment. – via Whap!…….from Chicago
#14937From: Harry CallesisJan 13, 1992 7:35 PM
Bill – Actually, the only misleading thing in the manual quote you gave was the unqualified mention of "VCR", rather than "VCR with digital freeze". All the other sources mentioned produce a stable signal for the slowscan. The laserdisk is by nature a digital freeze, and the still-video camera is analogous to the "live", immobile camera with an immobile object. Harry
#14975From: Peter GreciJan 15, 1992 1:24 AM
I've got a Canon Xapshot and it works GREAT with DCTV I also use my Pioneer 1080 Laser Disc to do Japanese Animation Digitizing
#14974From: Peter GreciJan 15, 1992 1:23 AM
If ya have a Video Camera set it up on a Tripod and get it to where the image ya want is centered correct hit record on the camera and digitize the non moving object that way.Ya "Should" get pretty good results that way
#14973From: Peter GreciJan 15, 1992 1:21 AM
Seems like yer getting a Bad signal.Is yer VCR a 4 head one? Yer Best bet for Digitizing tho would be a TBC or a Laser Disc p[layer or a Canon Xapshot still Video Camera