#More Flyer Tips
18 messages in this thread
Gary,
I'm not sure if you figured this out or not, so I thought I'd mention it.
In the project menu, when you have a crouton highlighted, you can play it by
pressing the ENTER key. The space bar stops it.
I've noticed that after the system has been powered down, the next time you
turn it on, some of the video clips don't play. Interestingly enough, you can
play them in the CONTROL mode with the small play buttons, but try and double
click them and you may get streaks of color.
However, I found that if you continue holding down the left mouse button on the
crouton and very slightly move the mouse around, as though you were scratching
the crouton, the clip will play.
The clips also seem to play better after the system has been running for a
while. I guess these croutons are kind of like people. Really don't get movin'
until they've scratched and been awake for a while.(g)
Fred
Fred, I'm not sure, but those sound more like quirks of your particular system.
Regards, Gary
Gary,
Are your files stable? Clips that you record today, do you have a problem
playing them back tomorrow?
Didn't Hank post a notice that said something to the effect, keep working with
those dissapearing files – they will come back. I think that this was a remarke
made by NewTek.
My system is about 95% usuable. I am doing work on it. The stuttering is the
only thing that causes me to have to re-do a transfer from the Flyer to tape.
But, in the process of building a project, I find that the clips don't always
playback the first time I go to use them. They seem to be more stable when
being played through the control panel then when being played by double
clicking or even at times in a project.
But, once I get the whole sequence put together, I can press the TAB or play
button and it runs. There may be a warm up time that my Flyer drives need. I do
notice that most of the problems seem to be when I first turn on the system and
after I have been working with it for a while the little problems seem to go
away.
Fred
Fred, I find that a clip will play or it won't….doesn't matter if I reboot or
the thing has been on for days.
GK
Fred,
Your memory is great. NewTek documented a bug in the list they supplied
me, and I posted, that said –
10 Error message when dragging a crouton into a project or when playing a
clip.
Message "Crouton load failed: bad or missing file".
The clip is there and is ok. Keep trying until it loads, by switching
displays or even reloading.
Does that fit the criteria?
To what do you attribute the stuttering? Haven't you replaced the Quantum
drive?
Hank
Videology, Inc. Where you get P.O.M.P. under
all circumstances
>>>Haven't you replaced the Quantum drive?<<<
I got a message from my dealer that said, Quantium would replace the drives,
but is still unclear on how this is going to happen. Has this been resolved? It
has been a week since I heard from them, I would think that would be enough
time to figure it out.
Brad Hayes
Hayes Visual Communication
The drive letter I posted last week indicated that NewTek had set up a
select channel that would be used for making the swap. Back then they
indicated that the channel would take two weeks to set up (or so).
I'm sure your dealer got the same letter and would fill in the details as
soon as they get them. I haven't heard anything yet here.
Hank
Videology, Inc. Where you get P.O.M.P. under
all circumstances
Hank,
The message you just referred to was the one I was thinking about.
However, I just realized that I don't get a message, just a screen of colors
instead of a video scene. But, if I keep trying to play the clip, it finally
works.
Why the stuttering? I wish I knew. I have two 9GB drives. No Quantims. The
stuttering only happens when playing back a project. If I play back the video
clip by itself, it is fine.
The stuttering doesn't happen all of the time. On projects where I have had
stuttering, it usually only happens once or twice. If I play the project a
second time, it doesn't stutter.
I don't think the stuttering is related to any particular clip. I think it is
something that happens during the playing back of the entire project. I can
hear the Flyer drives grinding away as the scenes play and then without any
warning a scene will stutter. As I said, it happens towards the end of a scene
or at the beginning of a scene. Not in the middle.
Fred
Fred,
Is it possible that the transition before or after the effect is causing
the stutter. Some effects cause a stutter when the load, a known bug.
Others cause stuttering during their run or at the end, affecting the
following clip. NewTek feels that all effects should be trouble free by
the release of 4.0.
No flashing power light,eh?
Hank
Videology, Inc. Where you get P.O.M.P. under
all circumstances
Hank, I have found that the best way to avoid stuttering is to forget about
doing split edits. If I stay out of the fine control panel, things seem to work
better.
Regards, Gary
Gary,
What do you do when you need to do a split edit? Transfer the scene twice?
Fred
Gary,
Disreguard my last message to you. You did say split edit, and I was thinking
you meant something else.
I thought that you might have meant that the stuttering is more pronounced if
you duplicate a crouton and use it again with a second couton in between.
You didn't mean that and I realized that after I sent you the last message. I
got to get some sleep.
BTW, my stuttering did not occur during a split edit. Most of my control panel
adjustments are NOT made in the fine tune section.
Fred
Hank,
I think in one case it was just a straight cut between the two scenes and the
other time is was a normal dissolve. However, the next time it happens, I'll
take note as to what effect if any was in between the scenes.
Flashing Power Light? I'm sorry, I missed the significance of that reference.
But, if you meant did the electrical power change at any time? No.
Well it is back to another full day of editing, so I'll catch up with you this
evening.
Fred
Fred,
I seem to be having the exact same problems you are describing about the
stuttering. I also have 2 9GB drives. I will also take note as to what is
actually going on when the stuttering occurs.
Chip Crogan (MZtv)
Chip,
Somehow, we sould both report this to NewTek, so they can see that this is not
an isolated case. With both of us having the same system setup, it might help
them locate the problem.
Maybe Hank will pick up on this message and add it to his weekly report to
NewTek.
I'll also see if I can fax your message along with my comment to NewTek. I'll
have to do this late today.
Fred
Fred,
We're still getting random stuttering too. If I can keep the project under
about 7 minutes I can usually correct for it by eliminating split edits or
using faster DVEs etc. Another fix that worked was to transfer a clip which
always stuttered to my second drive – poof stutter gone. But this does not
always seem to help. Tsk, tsk.
The main thing seems to be project length and degree of filled up-ness of the
hard drive. I hope NewTek realizes how serious the stutter problem is. It
takes me 5 times longer to complete a project just to fiddle away the stutters
– we don't have a frame acurate record deck so doing projects in pieces is hit
or miss.
We all need to raise a stink over this with NT.
TTFN,
Russ
Russ,
You're right about the stuttering showing up more in long projects. And it
seems to be the last half of the project where it appears. You can hear the
drives grinding away as the video unfolds.
One problem I was able to clean up today was a problem I had with clips that
would not play. They would scrub, but when you tried to play them as a project,
nothing. Just colors on the screen.
I ran the autohue and calibration programs this morning. Couldn't think of
anything else to do. It worked. Either the calibration can change with time, or
the system acts differently when first booted. So, now if I have any problem
with clips not playing, I'm going to try the calibration route.
This may have been the problem that I was having with HFX. I'll try a short
render and see what happens.
Fred
Fred-
I -think- I figured out why clips seem less stable when played back
via a double-click:
Try this: Double-click an -audio- clip and let it start playing.
Then click it again. Another copy of it will start
playing over itself.
I am fairly certain that if you give an extra click on a -video-
clip, it tries to do the same thing, and ends up confusing the
drive, and locking up or crashing, since the drive can really
only play back one clip at a time.
So if you're like me and not really careful about your double-clicking,
that could be what is causing the problem there.
Ed Z.
MZA/TSA