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#Modem differences

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#186432From: Dale LarsonFeb 23, 1995 3:33 PM
PC magazine would recommend the v.everything. They are so Dos/Windows oriented that what FidoNet nodes are running probably would be really important to them. What kind of testing did they do? dale@iam.com http://www.iam.com Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#186443From: Paul IdolFeb 23, 1995 4:29 PM
The actual tests are: Telephone Network Simulation Throughput Vs. File Type Call Connect Reliability Block Ackwnowledge Delay These were done for each of the 16 tested modems both as straight-ahead performance tests and as interoperability tests with 5 different modems – Archtek V.34; Cardinal V32.terbo; Microcom V.FC; Motorola V.34; USRobotics Courier V.34. In addition, they provided graphs for each modem of its throughput under line conditions varying from perfect to awful. The very best performer under perfect and perfectly awful conditions was the AT&T Comsphere 3810Plus, which with its $1095 list price and concommitant features isn't of much use to most people. And furthermore it didn't do that well on bad line conditions – it just trailed off better. Interestingly enough, the Practical Peripherals modem wins on the Most Bang For The Buch chart, though it does _not_ have flash ROM. Mr. Zombie – now 76375,1776
#186493From: jack radiganFeb 24, 1995 9:11 AM
Dale, PC Magazine's bias aside, don't knock the US Robotics modems, especially the V.everything. It's a hell of a modem. -jack-
#186514From: Michael SheaFeb 24, 1995 1:58 PM
> PC Magazine's bias aside, don't knock the US Robotics modems, >especially the V.everything. It's a hell of a modem. Jack, Sorry, but I will knock US Robotics. There V.34 modems were released with bugs in the ROMS and while I am sure they would have fixed the problems, I did not have the time to wait for the new roms. They told me 3-4 weeks, but alot of folks have waited months. I returned the modem and bough a PPI V.34 minitower and it has been working fine. This whole situation was very inconvenient for me as I had to travel from Tucson to Pheonix twice, once the buy the USR and once to return it and buy the PPI. I sure there modems are still good products, but they sure have left a bad taste in my mouth. ._ _ _ INTERNET: mshea@math.arizona.edu | | |ichael _>hea COMPUSERVE: 76665,3360
#186590From: jack radiganFeb 25, 1995 12:54 PM
I remember the same problems with the early HST's and again with the V.32 Dual Standards. It's pretty much the same with any modem manufacturer as well when a new standard comes out, that's why alot of them are going to flash ROM technology. USR has done the same for their rack mounted modems, assumed the stand alones were the same (I've not upgraded my 16.8 duals yet). -jack-
#186626From: Michael SheaFeb 25, 1995 7:09 PM
Well, I really think I would have liked the USR better if I could have waited for the new ROM. But I couldn't. ._ _ _ INTERNET: mshea@math.arizona.edu | | |ichael _>hea COMPUSERVE: 76665,3360
#186814From: jack radiganFeb 27, 1995 7:54 PM
Well, that's kind of the downside to a company with a popular product, it bogs down their response time… 😉 -jack-
#186594From: John GagerFeb 25, 1995 1:26 PM
And PPI didn't have any upgrade problems? PPI originally stated that the V.FC to V.34 upgrade would be available in November. Now at the beginning of this month, they are finally available. And I can assure you, the PM288MT II V.FC modem I purchased last August has it's own set of annoying bugs. I was finally able to get ahold of someone at tech support last Friday to get this V.FC modem upgraded, but it was hell trying to get through for awhile. PPI is no saint, that is for sure. // John (Warp 4040 & Emplant Quadra 840) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#186638From: Betty Clay/SYSOPFeb 25, 1995 11:49 PM
You could have worked through PPIFORUM right here on CompuServe. They're great. —Betty
#186645From: John GagerFeb 26, 1995 12:38 AM
Betty: Well I have been to the PPI forum, and unless they have changed their policy, they were not handling V.34 upgrades. I found most of the people over there to be friendly and tried to be helpful. But overall, I think PPI has handled the V.FC to V.34 upgrades rather poorly. // John (Warp 4040 & Emplant Quadra 840) \X/ Mercury@ins.infonet.net
#186499From: Paul IdolFeb 24, 1995 10:22 AM
What do you mean "They are so Dos/Windows oriented that what FidoNet nodes are running probably would be really important to them." ??? Mr. Zombie – now 76375,1776
#186515From: Dale LarsonFeb 24, 1995 2:20 PM
v.34 is all that matters to most people. Having an "everything" modem only matters if you need something else. Most goofy FidoNet nodes run USRs, many with their goofy proprietary mode as the highest speed. Most of the rest of the world is pretty well standardized on the standards (except maybe PEP and protocol spoofing in Telebits which were once the standard in UUCP). FidoNet seems most important to the DOS/Windows crowd, so of course it was important to PC magazine. dale@iam.com http://www.iam.com Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#186516From: Paul IdolFeb 24, 1995 2:58 PM
I see. They didn't mention any proprietary modes. The main thing seemed to be its performance and call connect reliability, which were impressive. Of course it's also got a high list price, so it really depends what the list price is. Mr. Zombie – now 76375,1776