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#PAR Harddrive Problem

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#157278From: Christophe Van OyenMar 6, 1995 9:43 AM
I have a problem with my MC2217 GB harddrive and PAR although I think it could be perfectly normal. First of all I have 10 ANI files residing on thye drive they are as follows-: 1. 962frames 2. 350 frames 3. 749 frames 4. 249 frames 5. 27 frames 6. 251 frames 7. 201 frames 8. 5502 frames 9. 339 frames 10. 101 frames Problem is this leaves me with nearly 6 minutes animation and only about 450MB of the 1.6 mentioned free on the drive: I know need to do some joins like 1+2, however this creates a file of 1312 frames extra and this file gets corrupted about halfway for some parts of the animation. Could this be a bad spot on the PAR drive or is it normal that I get this since the drive is for3/4 full after the join only 323.2 MB free???? I have min.compression Block Limit 302 Q-Factor 23 (I'm in PAL world remember) Any suggestions, I have no backup available and I need to join all these files into 2 or 3 files ??????? I should have had backup however, I ordered an external DAT and 10 days ago I got an internal one so I have to wait about another week for the external. I need the animation by Wednesday morning for a prersentation through the day. Christophe
#157405From: ROBERT RITGERMar 6, 1995 5:26 PM
Christophe: Is there enough room on your DOS drive for temporary storage of a couple of your ANI files? If so, I would copy off the ones which are not as important at the moment. Optimize your drive next and then do your joins. Delete the original segments, rename your .TMP file and then re-optimize your drive. I found that when my drive gets full, the seam where I just joined two segments appears corrupted until I clear out some space and re-optimize. I believe the newly joined segments create a .TMP file which is placed on the slower tracks of your hard drive. The closer your animation file is to the slowest drive track the higher chance that it will not be fast enough to maintain playback speed. Bob
#157496From: Christophe Van OyenMar 7, 1995 5:25 AM
Yes Robert you are right I figured that out, after the join I copy the two segements I joined to another harddrive and I then do an optimize after that the animations paly OK. So my problem is solved, so to me it appears one can only use 1.1 to 1.2 GB of the 1.6 GB on the disk for real animation which is for me about 6 minutes with the best quality, If I would put the Block Limit down I probably be able to use more of the disk. Christophe
#157684From: ROBERT RITGERMar 7, 1995 10:30 PM
Christophe: Good to hear you are able to play your animation after some wrangling. I have the smaller Micropolis 2210A which I can fill up to about 90% before I get the bad playback. This gives me about 5 minutes of clean playback. I believe that .STL files are always stored on the slower tracks so you could just pile up a bunch to keep the space from going to waste. <G> Bob
#157720From: Don LandisMar 8, 1995 3:55 AM
Hi Bob: I was called in to help a local animator resolve a similar issue with his PAR and 2217. He was using BLF of 250 for all his work. When he got to 800 megs filled none of his animations would play. after optimizations each time more of his desired animations would play including ones that once played before optimization. I suggested he never again use the BLF of 250 but reduse it to 240 for all his work unless doing just one or two short animations on an empty drive. He agreed and after a couple of months work now has reported that he can fill the drive to over 75% without problems. He has now resolved to stop using the PAR as a storage device for his animations and make it a working space for current projects. In the early days of the par we all were bragging about the "ability" to be able to use the higher BLF's for higher quality. Well, after a year of heavy PAR use I must conclude that using the DPS's recommendation of 240 is right opn target for best performance of the PAR with these Mic drives. The quality difference between the two settings is, IMO, not perceptable.
#157821From: Christophe Van OyenMar 8, 1995 4:18 PM
I guess you are right with what you said, but for PAL DPS recommends 300 BLF and I use 302, however I seem to be able to fill up the drive to 1.2GB at that compression rate, which amounts to about 6 minutes of video, and that will be enough. However I'm waiting for my DAT backup, so for the moment I'm stuck with playback. Luckely I just was able to get everything right and managed to preent everything during 3 workshops today. So all worked out well. Christophe
#157839From: Don LandisMar 8, 1995 6:14 PM
Oh yes the pal figure of only doing 25 FPS. Must have to do with original file bytes per minute
#157928From: ROBERT RITGERMar 9, 1995 1:21 AM
Don: /_______________________From your message________________________\\ Well, after a year of heavy PAR use I must conclude that using the DPS's recommendation of 240 is right on target for best performance of the PAR with these Mic drives. __________________________________________________________________ I haven't changed my 240 setting since I bought the PAR either. Now that I can move around my .ani files which are often over the 896 frame threshold I can keep my PAR drive pretty clear for joins and edits. Before PAR v1.5 I was trying to keep everything on the PAR as long as possible, not a preffered scenario. Bob