#3000 Superkick – latest?
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Paul,
Yes…you replace the daughter board with the KS ROM's. The ROMs on
the daughterboard are enough to get KS loaded into RAM.
Don
Don,
Is it true that Super Kickstart is on the hard drive? When I boot up
while holding down both mouse buttons the screen will ask if to start Kickstart
from Floppy od Hard drive.
The version I have say 37.175. Is this the latest or is there a newer
version. Also the system tells me that I have Workbench 37.67. Is this the
latest?
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Bob
Bob,
I can't tell you about the latest numbers…but yes, SuperKickStart is
on the HD.
(BTW…SuperKickStart is simply a 512K image file on the disk, I forget
if it's in a separate partition…or just a simple file on the SYS: partition).
Don
Don-
So what is the kind of ROM that's in a pair of chips hanging upside down on a
daughterboard inserted into a special pair of sockets located above the normal
2?
Mr. Zombie – now 76375,1776 – Warped again?
Paul,
Humm…I'm beginning to remember something…early A3000's had a
"Buster Tower" daughterboard (if my memory is correct) and that is not where
boot ROMs go.
My memory is now telling me that the boot ROMs that load KS are located
on the motherboard..in the same spot where the OS ROMs go if you wish to
upgrade.
I never owned an A3000, so am doing this from memory…check your
motherboard to see if there's a ROM (only one) other than on that
daughterboard.
Don
It's in the DEVS: directory if I recall correctly.
DJ
Bob,
KS v37.175 is AmigaDOS 2.04. You can purchase the current version roms (3.1,
v40.70) from Expert Services.
-sja
How much for 3.1 , 10.70?
And if I have Kickstart 37.67 what version is that? and how much is the
latest?
Thanks
Bob
Bob,
The Kickstart file is in Devs/kickstart on the boot partition and the
partition's name in HDToolBox should be WB_2.x or else your Amiga will not find
the kickstart file during boot.
//
\X/ Amiga lives? Gary Bonnstetter
Gary…
Is it possible to get an image of the 3.0 kickstart to boot on a
superkickstart machine. I have an A3000 superkickstart and tried to
boot it using a 3.0 image. It wouldn't. Is it possible or is there a trick
to it?
..Carl
Carl…
Yes.
The easy way was to be a C= developer and get it from BIX. They still had the
WB 3.1 and kickstarts the last time I looked. And the files are still only
available to developers. So your out of luck there for now.
But I beleive there is a utility that can make a kickstart file from the ROM in
an Amiga. Don't know the name as I'm a developer and have never needed it.
Should be in the libs here or in AmigaTech I would guess.
P.S. I found GBKICK.LHA in the AmigaUser Libs. I never tried it so use it at
your own risk.
//
\X/ Amiga lives? Gary Bonnstetter
Gary…
Yeah I found the GBKICK.lha file and it did grab an image of my ROM
but when I substituted that (ROM image) for the one in my devs drawer the
machine crashed on reboot – lucky I could reboot using a floppy and copy my
2.04 rom image back to the hard drive. Is there something I need to do to the
ROM image to make it bootable?
..Carl
Carl,
Well it looks like its a bit harder than just using GBKICK.LHA. I looked
through all my saved BIX messages and found this from the Amiga grand master
himself:
amiga.user/main #6433, from msinz, 496 chars, Thu Aug 18 16:32:27 1994
This is a comment to message 6423.
There is/are comment(s) on this message.
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Real simple:
Read in the complete DEVS:KICKSTART file into memory.
You need a bit more than 512K
Next, Read from the 3.1 ROM addresses $00F80000 to $00FFFFFF
and put those bytes into the first 512K bytes of the
image you read from the DEVS:KICKSTART file.
Finally, write the whole image (not just 512K) to a file
somewhere. If you put it into DEVS:KICKSTART of a soft-kick
machine it will then load that kickstart as the superkickstart
image next time it cold-boots.
— Mike
Grabkick apparently reads in the 512K from the 3.1 ROMs but it doesn't add the
extra parts from the end of a working kickstart file.
I looked but I couldn't find anything in my listings files from BIX that
finishes the job of making a ROM image into a kickstart image. Are you a good
programmer?
//
\X/ Amiga lives? Gary Bonnstetter
options results
ARG grabkick
/* read 512K into the 2.04 file */
call open("2","wb_2.x:devs/kickstart","R")
do i=1 to 32
dummy=readch("2",16384)
end
/* read the remainder of 2.04 (less than 16K) and append it to
the grabkick'd 3.0 file */
call open("3",grabkick,"A")
writech("3",readch("2",16384))
call close("3")
call close("2")
———————————————–
I just wrote the above program to do basically what that message from Mike
Sinz says.
I ran it thus: rx fixrom kick3
"kick3" is the name of the grabkick file. The program did attach the 'extra'
bytes from 2.04 to 3.0 "kick3", which resulted in both kickstart files being
the same size, but when I renamed them so that 3.0 was devs/kickstart and did a
coldboot…kablam! It resulted in a constant crash/reboot cycle.
I once did get 3.0 working on my 3000, but my A4000's 3.0 had only SCSI code
so I couldn't access the SCSI devices. I even tried a utility called keepres,
which should keep the SCSI driver from 2.04 usable when you use a kickloader:
The system just crashed when I used it.
-Chris
Gary…
Am I a good programmer you ask? Hah, a good photographer yes but I don't
know hex from sex! I have played with some hex editors but only when I knew
exactly what I was doing.
Thanks for the info. I have saved it and am going to print it out so I can
place it under my pillow tonight and see if I can figure something out.
…Carl
Don-
Thanks. I did try that though in a machine I almost bought and it didn't seem
to work. There were some special jumpers below the 2 pairs of ROM sockets that
my dealer said he thought I had to switch and I tried it both ways and it
wouldn't boot – and I also reversed the ROMs just for in case, still no luck.
Mr. Zombie – now 76375,1776 – Warped again?
PMFJI, but I just went through some of this when I tried to get my 3.1 roms to
run in my A3000. The 2 jumpers you are talking about have four possible
settings. All I can say is try them all! I had bought 3.1 roms and the repair
tech told me they were bad. I bought another set, which he promptly told me
were bad as well. After playing with the jumpers (they change the clock timing
to the roms) I found that the first set of 3.1 roms worked fine with the first
jumper on 16mhz and the second on 25mhz. Your system may vary. Hope that
helps alittle.
Dege
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