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#Really Weird Problem

9 messages in this thread
#189799From: peter foleyMar 21, 1995 5:10 PM
I have an A500 with a dead DF0:. Recently I can no longer activate icons on the desktop without the whole system freezing. Any ideas? Programs run fine from menus and docks etc.
#189807From: Paul IdolMar 21, 1995 5:54 PM
Sounds like a toasted CIA chip, but maybe someone else has a better idea. Mr. Zombie
#189812From: Jim SteeleMar 21, 1995 7:12 PM
I agree, I've seen a toasted cia chip cause those same symptoms. Best thing to do is swap the two chips & see if the bugs change. -Jim MOS via Autopilot & Amiga
#189844From: peter foleyMar 21, 1995 11:24 PM
What does the cia chip look like? What does it do?
#189874From: Paul IdolMar 22, 1995 9:53 AM
It overthrows small foreign governments, and for all practical purposes it's invisible. Mr. Zombie
#189895From: Christian BusseMar 22, 1995 3:23 PM
Peter, the CIA chips bear the number 8520, there's a pair of them in your Amiga which is (as far as I remember) located to the rear center of your A500. On the motherboard there should 'even' and 'odd' and/or 'CIA-A' and 'CIA-B' be written beside or in front of the chips so you know which is which. The CIA chips are used for a whole lot of things in the Amiga so in quite a lot of cases when it acts weird, a 'fried' CIA is to blame. As there are two of them you can easily swap them and see if your problems disappear (and others appear in their place, due to the other CIA chip now being the defective one…). I don't know what they really do – there are some timers integrated in the CIAs, and they have some function or other with the ports (Serial, Parallel and floppy). Other than that I have no idea. But you can see they're pretty vital to your Amiga's operation. Unfortunately though they seem to be in no way protected from harm – you can fry a CIA by just plugging/unplugging a cable (serial, parallel) with your Amiga powered on (which is why you should never do that according to the books…) Cheers, // Christian "ELP" Busse \X/ near Frankfurt, Germany
#189900From: peter foleyMar 22, 1995 5:07 PM
Thanks. Now I just have to find a supplier in OZ that still stocks parts.
#189908From: Jim SteeleMar 22, 1995 5:57 PM
I'd swap 'em before buying new chips, although in these times, having a spare set makes sense. In any case, based on your description, I'd say that if you swapped them, the printer would stop working properly. -Jim MOS via Autopilot & Amiga
#189907From: Jim SteeleMar 22, 1995 5:57 PM
Christian, I had a real "Twilight Zone" failure on my 1000 with a bad 8520. The time of day clock kept repeating the same 1:27 over and over. It was actually useful for some games. They appeared to set their initial conditions based on the 8520's counter. The bad chip only allowed maybe half a dozen configurations in Hack…. once you recognized the layout, you knew where all the treasures were hidden. 🙂 -Jim MOS via Autopilot & Amiga