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#PAR SCREW UP

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#157816From: Jerry O'ConnorMar 8, 1995 4:04 PM
I just deleted an empty project from my par's slave drive and now it tells me that my drive is corrupted and would i kindly please format it and wipe out all of my animations! Is there a way to fix this with out formating the drive or am i screwed? and if i'm screwed, how do i tell the par to format the slave – not the master drive? when i run the partest program and try to format the drive it does not want to let me specify which drive to format. Jerry O'Connor Summit Graphics, Inc.
#157861From: Tim c BrananMar 8, 1995 8:03 PM
I had this happen to me, and it has happened to a few others here, as well. If you can read your ani files from DOS, try copying them to a DOS disk, then re-formatting, and copy them back. If this doesn't work, then I am afraid you are about %99 screwed. This is why I always make a copy of any new ani's and back them up.
#157902From: Mike MorganMar 8, 1995 11:09 PM
Jerry, Ouch! The version of of PAR software you are using needs to upgraded. That happened til version 1.3b (I think) the current version is 1.5 and I have even heard of a few patches to this version, but it will take care of your "Delete Project Directory" problem. What Tim Branan said is true about the remaining files on the drive, just make sure that you put the PAR into its native format "pardrv -p" and use the DOS copy command to copy each file to you hard drive (no wild cards or ?, etc.). About formatting the SLAVE- Use Partest.exe and go through all the steps then select Format and go through all of these steps also and the last question will ask you to format the Master or Slave and you should be set. Be sure to log onto DPS's BBS for the latest software. Until then you could delete all files and then rename the old Project directory to you new Project name. Mike Morgan, CAD Forms Inc.
#158000From: Tim c BrananMar 9, 1995 11:53 AM
good message, but you sent it to the wrong guy.
#157935From: Mike MorganMar 9, 1995 1:59 AM
Sorry Tim, I sent this last message the wrong direction. I re-submitted a copy back to Jerry, there is not much a person can do in this situation I have been there also :<. I sure hope that he is not using the latest version of the PAR software!!! -Mike
#158001From: Tim c BrananMar 9, 1995 11:55 AM
I agree as well. I loaded on 1.5 when it was released and haven't had any problems so far.
#157929From: ROBERT RITGERMar 9, 1995 1:21 AM
Jerry: You've just joined a club that wishes it had no members. 🙁 Tim's suggestion of copying any files you can still see at the DOS level is going to get at least a few files back for you and is a good suggestion. You owe it to yourself to download version 1.5 of the PAR software as this deleting projects bug is allegedly fixed. Please tell us all that you have a version of the PAR software prior to v1.5. I have tried deleting projects with version 1.5 twice and I had no drive corruption, my fingers are still crossed. Before you start copying your files to a DOS drive be warned that versions of the PAR software before 1.5 have been known to cause file corruption in animations of over 896 frames. So, before you copy them off, split them into smaller segments if you can. Optimizing the drive,if you can, may give you back a few files. You may see files jump directories, projects magically rename themselves and other anomolies like old animations reappearing. I wish I had better news for you. Bob
#157936From: Mike MorganMar 9, 1995 1:59 AM
Jerry, Ouch! The version of of PAR software you are using needs to upgraded. That happened til version 1.3b (I think) the current version is 1.5 and I have even heard of a few patches to this version, but it will take care of your "Delete Project Directory" problem. What Tim Branan said is true about the remaining files on the drive, just make sure that you put the PAR into its native format "pardrv -p" and use the DOS copy command to copy each file to you hard drive (no wild cards or ?, etc.). About formatting the SLAVE- Use Partest.exe and go through all the steps then select Format and go through all of these steps also and the last question will ask you to format the Master or Slave and you should be set. Be sure to log onto DPS's BBS for the latest software. Until then you could delete all files and then rename the old Project directory to you new Project name. Mike Morgan, CAD Forms Inc. P.S. What version of the PAR software are you using? Do let us know ASAP so we don't fall into the same old hole.
#158160From: Jerry O'ConnorMar 10, 1995 7:34 AM
Mike, Robert and Tim: Thanks for your responses. As for the version of Par driver, i was using 1.3. I had already downloaded 1.5 but didn't want to switch in the middle of the project i was working on:) I have been screwed by the Par so many times in the past (I believe i was the first one to realize that it was corrupting large files) that i have developed a religous practice of not only copying the *.ani files to my system drive via dos copy, but also backing up all of the original *.tga files to dat before putting them on the par. So i guess i'm only 98% screwed:) Thanks again for the assistance. I will just reformat the drive and copy the ani files back to the drive. Jerry O'Connor
#158323From: Mar 10, 1995 10:30 PM
Jerry: Just saw your PAR message. If you haven't given up yet, _sometimes_, just sometimes, if you haven't done anything to the PAR after deleting a directory with the beta versions of the software, if you create a new directory with the same name it will magically work again! Good luck, Greg Pyros
#158401From: Brendan GallagherMar 11, 1995 1:06 PM
Greg, Saw this thread and thought I might pose a queary.. I was copying several segments from video to the PAR. I had just optimized the drive and I am using ver 1.50. I copied the first two over with no problem, then I copied the third and it caused the 2nd segment to become scrambled. I erased the scrambled segment and recaptured it, this time it scrambled the 3rd segment. Not knowing what the problem was I erased all the segments and figured I'd try again. First I was going to Optimize again because it would tidy up the drive. It told me it would need 1125 minutes to optimize…. At this time I don't have 18+ hours to spare. Any clue as to what might of happened? It went from optimized to that in less than 20 minutes. Do you have any suggestions an what I might do short of formatting? The other stuff on the drive seems fine. (2017A drive is 1.1gig free) Brendan G.
#159799From: DONALD NEWLANDSMar 19, 1995 10:57 PM
Brendan, <<. It told me it would need 1125 minutes to optimize…. >> I had the same thing happen recently… it told me that it needed 1000+ minutes to optimize I only had 480 minutes until my project was due…<g> I hit optimize anyhow, and it took as long as I would have expected without the "estimate" — about five minutes… –Donald
#159858From: theo van bruggenMar 20, 1995 1:20 PM
PMJI, I have experienced a simular problems several times before, although i don't think it has anything to do with keeping E/E on. I captured 500 frames 12-240 setting (PAL-version) Disk Occupied 800 MB Avail 800 MB After the 500 frames, it told me the largest blksize was 120 (?!?) All other animations seemed to be damaged (giving the looks of the famous >896 problem……, and the directory told me that these animations (which were >2000 frames) , dropped to 68 frames, 238 frames etc.. I had this several times before and put several times this WARNING on CIS BRING DOWN YOUR SYSTEM, DON'T DO ANYTHING ANYMORE WITH THE PAR SOFTWARE, RESTART AND YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT ALL YOUR ANIMATIONS ARE BACK AND OK AGAIN, ONLY THE CAPTURED STUFF IS DAMAGED, DELETE THE CAPTURED FILE(s) AND START OVER AGAIN AFTER OPTIMISING THE DISK OR WAIT TILL YOUR PAR IS IN A BETTER MOOD. Bye Theo
#159982From: Brendan GallagherMar 21, 1995 9:18 AM
theo, >>BRING DOWN YOUR SYSTEM, DON'T DO ANYTHING ANYMORE WITH THE PAR SOFTWARE, RESTART AND YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT ALL YOUR ANIMATIONS ARE BACK AND OK AGAIN>> Worked like a charm, words of wisdom for sure…. Thanks, B-
#160079From: Bill RouadyMar 21, 1995 5:22 PM
Theo: I had a recent similar experience that corrupted, permanently, a number of animations on my hard drive. I posted a warning last week in regards to the problem. In my case, I optimized the drive while still in E/E mode. A bad mistake. ALL files that were moved during the optimization were corrupted by what was coming in the video feed. Shut down did not save anything. The techsupport people didn't have any answers for me. I have optimized both before and after the incident without a problem. But I will always be careful about the E/E switch since that was the only setting diffeerent in the occurrance. I paid a 3-day price for the problem. One thing is for sure, now I backup then optimize, rather than optimize and backup as I was doing that day!!! Bill Rouady 8>
#160350From: DONALD NEWLANDSMar 22, 1995 11:07 PM
Theo, Thanks for the WARNING<g>! -Donald
#160372From: theo van bruggenMar 23, 1995 4:18 AM
Donald, At your service…, Theo
#159980From: Brendan GallagherMar 21, 1995 9:17 AM
Donald, >>I only had 480 minutes until my project was due…<< That definately would have been inconvient <g> Luckily Greg Pyros was out and about that weekend and clued me in to powering down and then back up and then all was well again….. this time <g> B-