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DS King hearing nixed

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#11880From: bruce gorenApr 7, 1992 1:26 PM
FLASH ! The judge has just ruled on the 3-D Studio animation offered by the defense in the Rodney King beating trial. The offer of evidence has been rejected by the judge as inadmissable and will not be heard by the jury. The biomechanical engineer failed to show it was an accurate or reliable rendition of what actually happened. The judge found her testimony and measurements to be based on subjective suppositions, measurements of changed physical parameters (the road was re-surfaced, changin contours and look agles), had weak probative value, and had a high probability of confusing and mis-leading the jury. Hey Gary, just as well, eh ? You didn't really want 3-DS to be associated too strongly with the politically incorrect side of this case, did you ? In any event you've had two days of free advertising to every law firm in Los Angeles, the litigation capitol of the free world. . . admissable or inadmissable, your dealer network is bound to be flooded with inquiries. Bruce
#11897From: Evan Yares [WeirdTM]Apr 7, 1992 4:19 PM
Which goes to show that 3D Studio is just a tool. The expert witness blew it. Evan
#11910From: Craig Sharp [Mem TM]Apr 7, 1992 6:34 PM
Evan: Not necessarily… the rules of evidence must be met. I used to do illustrations for court cases… and there is a fine line between the evidence simply reflecting the actual conditions and the evidence having an influence on the jury that is not in line with the rules of evidence. Visiting the scene is not always allowed for this reason, so I don't see how someone can guarantee that 3DS is appropriate. In my mind, I don't think that 3DS will become a strong tool for courtroom application. Convincing someone to settle based on the >potential< of something so patently damaging might be the highest and best use of 3DS. C#
#11917From: Evan Yares [WeirdTM]Apr 7, 1992 9:33 PM
Craig: What do I know of courtroom proceedures? It just seems to me that an animation must be explicitly supported by non-graphical data. Any animation that shows what *might* have happened, without having supporting data, seems destined to fail. Evan
#11920From: alec jasonApr 7, 1992 11:45 PM
I think you're right, Evan. There has to be a strong legal foundation for ANY item of evidence. I don't know what happened in the King case regard ing the denial but I spoke with the animator a week ago and I knew he had a very difficult project. I'm just starting on another homicide case in which the entire animation will be based on the testimony of one witness. One thing to remember is that each case is different and the admissibility of anything in a trial the decision — right or wrong — of one man: the judge. Alec Jason
#11991From: bruce gorenApr 8, 1992 9:58 PM
Alec, Even if it had been ruled admissable I doubt the jury would have bought it. The defence was trying to refute the sworn testimony of four eyewitness accounts by rigging a computer model to depict a different scenario than what they swear they saw. I sensed the judge found this distasteful, even on TV it seemed he was quite annoyed with the defense for taking up so much time trying to get this in as evidence. Grounds for appeal if any of the cops are convicted ???? Bruce
#12022From: alec jasonApr 9, 1992 1:21 AM
Bruce, Interesting. I still don't understand exactly what point the animation was supposed to demonstrate but if it's something difficult to substantiate and/or difficult to believe then animation will not likely help and may even prove to be counterproductive. The GI=GO principle will still prevail even when filtered through fancy experts, fancy machines, and fancy software. (I'm not referring to this case — I don't know enough about it). Can they appeal on the basis that the court should have admitted the animation? Oh, sure. They can appeal on just about anything. They'll have to claim that the jury was denied the opportunity to hear the expert's testimony and see her animated presentation and they will have to argue that the judge was wrong on each of his reasons for denial. I don't really think any appeal will have a greater chance of success just because it involved the use of computer animation. Is the trial being shown via "Court TV?" I really want to get that but my cable company isn't interested. I may have to get a satelite dish (yet more expensive stuff I need!) Alec Jason
#12067From: bruce gorenApr 9, 1992 6:35 PM
Alec, Don't know if it's on Court TV, here in L.A. it is being carried live by one of the local independant TV stations with expert commentary during breaks in the action. I believe the defense was trying to "prove" that King was never hit in the head by police batons, that the blows hit elsewhere, and that the witnesses and videotape had faulty or misleading views/ angles . Bruce
#11932From: Yost GroupApr 8, 1992 1:18 AM
I'm actually relieved at this, since once I found out that the defense was using 3DS to prove their case, I figured it wouldn't be the most popular thing in the world. – G