A3000 Toaster HELP
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Help! I read on this forum a few weeks ago that running the Toaster in an
A3000 was possible and, in fact, worked quite well. Sinse then I have
heard of many A3000 owners installing Toasters so I took the plunge. After
making the required case modifications, I installed the board and nothing
happened. The power light wouldn't even come on. I tried grounding the
copper grounding clips – still nothing. I believe this can work but there
is simply something minor getting in the way… Does anyone have any
helpful hints?
Is the board touching anything it shouldn't be touching? I know I covered
the sides of my Toaster in shirt cardboard, taped at the edges, in order to
prevent it from accidentally touching the circuit board to any of the
nearby metal surfaces. Also, are you sure the board is seated correctly?
Do you have a lot of other power-hungry boards in there? You might be
overloading the A3000 power supply.
I'm also running a Toaster in an A3000, and everything runs fine except s
sometimes out of the blue it won't boot. The only other board in the thing
is the TBC I. If I remove the TBC it will boot, and if I put it back in it
will work for a few days. Do you think this is overloading the supply?
-Bill
Actually, I've tried several things… I have insulated the back side of
the board with a cut up magazine cover – including insulating the ground
clips, I've insulated everything except the ground clips – making sure they
were touching the case, and I've tried leaving the case off… None of
these solutions affected the outcome… That is, the machine plays dead
when the power is turned on. (Not even a power light). The machine boots
perfectly, however, when I remove the Toaster. As for overloading the 135
Watt power supply, I've checked into that as well. There are no other
boards in this A3000. It's equiped with 2Meg of Chip RAM, 8 Meg of fast
RAM, 1 Q52LPS, and 1 Q240LPS. I've even tried disconnecting one of the
drives thinking it might be a real power hog (no match for 135 Watts,
though) but I got the same results. Thanks for the response, though. I'll
keep hacking away… Any other suggestions?
—– Mark
Welcome to the world of Amiga variations. I had an A2000 that wouldn't
boot with a certain Toaster in it. I sent it back to NewTek, they said it
worked fine and sent another. Same problem. I ended up swapping
motherboards and it worked fine… No idea what was wrong – I even had Tim
Jenison himself on the phone trying to figure out what went wrong.
It's kind of silly. I've tried everything I know of with this machine. I
wonder if CBM will replace the mother board (with their Gold service) if
the Toaster doesn't work. In the mean time… I'll keep researching this
terrible dilemma I've gotten myself into. Thanks.
Does the Toaster work in another machine? I've got my Toaster in a 3000,
210MB Quantum, 50MB Quantum and 18MB of RAM with no problems booting
(unless it's 90 degrees in my room and even then, it's only once in a blue
moon). I ran across the first Toaster that didn't work right in a 3000
this past week. The system would boot up fine but after time, the video
would start flickering and doing odd things. All other 3000 users I know
with Toasters have no problems at all. It does appear that the 3000's
power supply in-rush current limit (current limit when turning the system
on) is a tad too low. TS Computers in North Hollywood has a fix (change a
capacitor). A friend of mine with a Toaster in his 3000 had the same
problem once and I don't know what happened but it doesn't happen any more.
His Toaster is S/N 16 too! 🙂
Try swapping the Toaster in for another?
Dan McCoy – via Whap! and saving money doing it too!
Actually, it does work in another machine. I also have a B2000. It's not
equiped to handle 2.0 toasting but at least it booted when the Toaster was
inserted in the video slot. However, sinse the B2000 I have is not beefed
up enough to run the 2.0 NewTek software, I cannot determine if the Toaster
is functioning correctly. It DOES boot, though. Tonight I plan to stuff
the Toaster into another 3000 to see if it boots. I'm also bringing my
daughter board to see if that is the problem. If the machine boots, I have
to try to convince CBM to fix my 3000 because the Toaster doesn't work in
it…. Hmmm… If it doesn't work, I have no idea what to do… Get
another Toaster because this one doesn't work in a 3000 but appears OK in a
2000… Hmmmm… Does anybody else have any suggestions?
— Mark
I had an early board (sn under 150) and had to swap it back when the 1.0
software came out. I didnt realize it was bad til it wouldnt boot with
toaster 1.0!!!!
Ijust got 2.0 today…. Its great!!!
– via Whap!
Well, the problem with my Toaster and 3000 was the power supply – just like
eveeveryone suggested. I swapped my 135 Watt PS with my brother's 135 Watt
PS that was in his 3000 (no Toast) and it worked fine. The component
tolerances in my PS must have combined to produce a PS that couldn't handle
the initial load. If I experience any more flakey problems, I'm going for
the 200 Watt PS. THANKS.