Amiga Market Survey
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The Amiga marketplace would do well if there were several "native"
Token-Ring communications boards and appropriate software to allow me to
connect my Amiga directly to an existing Token-Ring LAN at work which is
strictly big-blue flavor. Additional software will be required to make my
Amiga fully functional in such an environment (eg; data sharing, data
format conversions, device access (eg; file servers, printers), compatible
electronic mail packages (Lotus NOTES?), IBM 3270 emulation (CUT and DFT),
etc; etc; etc.).
Another software need in the communications area is a full TCP/IP
implementation which includes SLIP, but does not require a HAM radio, or an
Ethernet or Token-Ring card, does not use the X.25 protocol, and doesn't
require UNIX. The current AmigaNOS TCP/IP implementation (for AmigaDOS) is
best used for radio nets, not for asynchronous dial-up to a remote TCP/IP
host using the SLIP protocol, over a standard telephone line and existing
asynchronous modems. Another version that was designed for a "native"
Token-Ring card would also be needed.
Another hot item in my wish list is an Amiga port of IBM's Xedit/Kedit file
editor (with full REXX/ARexx support, of course). I contacted Mansfield
about this but they weren't interested at the time (they developed Kedit).
Another wish item is a "native" word processor which supports foreign
languages (translations, or spelling checker, or ??).
Once the T-R cards and software become available, somebody then needs to
incorporate SQL capabilities into existing Amiga database/spreadsheet
products for remote inquiries (ala IBM mainframe), et cetera (or design a
new one).
If the T-R cards and software become a reality, then somebody should start
designing some routers, bridges, communications hubs, etc; that are based
on an Amiga versus a messy-dos machine.
How about faster floppies (not just more capacity or caching, but higher
data throughput)?
– Using Whap! (from Southern Illinois) (Internet: ca0008@siucvmb.siu.edu)
Jim we have evaluated the Token Ring market every year since 87. Every year
we come up with the same answer, "We could sell 3". If you have information
to the contrary, please contact us. Regarding XEdit/KEdit.. we'd be
delighted to do it… how much money ya got?
Today must be Sunday. I never could get the hang of Sundays.
It may be that Ethernet support for the Amiga is a reality today because
there are enough Amiga's in Unix areas to support the need for Unix access.
I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt that there was some PD support for
Amiga's in the Unix world long before CBM's Ethernet board appeared.
Unfortunately, the major part of the Token-Ring marketplace appears to be
the same as a good to major part of the MS-DOS marketplace, which for the
most part doesn't know what Unix or Ethernet are. Since this marketplace is
much broader than the apparent Ethernet marketplace, there seems to be less
tolerance for non-MS-DOS machines, hence, there are few Amiga's in such
environments.
What needs to be done, is to provide the Amiga with the opportunity to BE
compatible (at least, network-wise) with the "other guys" so those of us
like myself who HAVE to work in a MS-DOS, OS/2, Token-Ring environment can
THEN bring in an Amiga and make it work in the business, Token-Ring
scenario. Since this marketplace is much broader than the educational
marketplace, where it appears a lot of development for Amiga "attachment"
to various Unix related components came from, there isn't much if ANY
development or hacking to provide "true blue" connectivity in a native
Amiga (eg; no Bridgeboards).
So, while the market demand for Token-Ring support for Amiga may not be
overwhelming, I actually doubt that the Ethernet demand is either. The
simple matter of the fact is that WITHOUT native Token-Ring support, and
Novell Netware support, etc; etc; etc; the Amiga is NEVER going to become a
player in the major business OR major non-Unix-only educational markets,
for the same capabilities as can be found in the various MS-DOS machines
(eg; databases, spreadsheets, electronic mail, network access, etc; etc;
etc.).
I have tried several times to get an authorization from our department to
purchase an Amiga, but have always been turned down for a number of
reasons. One of which is that Amiga's can't do Token-Ring, natively.
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I think that if you broadened your survey to include different markets
and/or niches, that you would find more of an interest, though you MAY not
find gobs of people flocking to throw their money down for what doesn't
exist.
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on….. but will hold my
breath for now. WE NEED NATIVE TOKEN-RING CARDS AND SOFTWARE for the Amiga.
I certainly hope that CBM has their ears unplugged! Golly gee, just look at
the efforts that Apple is going through to make their platform BUSINESS
CAPABLE (which includes Token-Ring)?!
As a potential purchaser of your potential (full) Amiga port of IBM's Xedit
editor (ala Mansfield's Kedit, but better, thanks), I would probably be
willing to settle for somewhere between $65 and $150 (with full ARexx
support). Or, was that a question for how much I would be able and/or
willing to invest in such a conversion? 😉
– Using Whap! (from Southern Illinois) (Internet: ca0008@siucvmb.siu.edu)
Jim,
I don't know where you get your information, but all the data I have
suggests that there are probably >3 ethernet cards for every Token-Ring
card in this country…and if you count the entire world, the ratio is MUCH
higher. Again…how much money do you have? How much money would YOU be
willing to pay for all that TR software?