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A1200 & 1960 problem??

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#93851From: Richard GraffApr 1, 1993 5:08 PM
When using the DBLNTSC high res no flicker monitor driver with my A1200 and a 1960 monitor, the workbench is set to the right, with about 1.5 inches of unused space to the left. It cannot be centered, although using the H.PHASE control on the front of the monitor and overscan in the PREFS drawer help a little bit but not much. I contacted my dealer, they told me that this just happens with the 1960 monitor, and that they would exchange it for a 1950 monitor that wouldn't do it. Can anyone confirm this info so that I know if the dealer is being honest with me or not? =Rick=
#93862From: Mark D. ManesApr 1, 1993 7:34 PM
Drag the VGAOnly icon out of the storage area (monitors drawer) and put it in devs/monitors. Reboot. You can then center your screen. -mark= Drivin' on Otto Pilot
#93917From: Richard GraffApr 2, 1993 6:45 AM
Thanks, that worked. =Rick=
#94086From: dicApr 3, 1993 9:50 PM
Silly as this might sound, would an A1200 work w/ a 1084s?
#94108From: Robert ComerApr 4, 1993 1:56 AM
Not silly! Yes the 1200 will work fine with a 1084, (you just wont be able to get the new flicker free modes.) Bob Comer — Cruising the nets on AutoPilot
#94155From: Mark D. ManesApr 4, 1993 5:44 PM
Yes it will work fine. You will just not be able to use any mode that is beyond 15.5 khz video. You will still be able to view and use all of the new color modes. -mark= Drivin' on Otto Pilot
#93863From: Dennis O'NeillApr 1, 1993 7:42 PM
Rick, Put the "VGAOnly" driver in your Monitors drawer. This should solve the centering problem. Commodore is supposed to have new monitor drivers and a new Overscan preferences program out to cure this the right way but most dealers don't seem to have them yet. Dennis ….on AutoPilot
#93918From: Richard GraffApr 2, 1993 6:45 AM
Thanks, That fixed worked. Are the new monitor drivers and new Overscan preferences program something that only dealers will have, or will it be uploaded to places like CIS? =Rick=
#93974From: Dennis O'NeillApr 2, 1993 9:17 PM
You'll have to get them from your dealer. Dennis ….on AutoPilot
#93973From: gary ludwickApr 2, 1993 9:11 PM
Rick = I saw a message on GENIE that indicated that there is a new release of monitor drivers that allow you to have automatically centered screens in ALL modes. Apparently it is a one disk revision that dealers should have or be getting. That's all I know at the moment, but you might want to call a couple of mail order dealers first, like Safe Harbor or Creative and see if they have it…(sometimes they get things way ahead of the local folks) Hope that helps…and avoids the hassle of a monitor exchange. Gary
#94242From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiApr 5, 1993 1:03 PM
Rick, Commodore has a set of updated monitor drivers that your dealer needs to get. I've got the edge of my overscan screen about a millimeter away from the left plastic on my 1960. It's a software fix, not a hardware fix.
#94257From: Richard GraffApr 5, 1993 5:13 PM
Denny, Thanks, someone else mentioned this to me also, I've talked to two amiga dealers in my area about the new drivers and they looked at me with blank stares, I'm going to try a third tommorrow. If you have them, then I can at least insist they are available and maybe get them to call and ask <G>. BTW, I finally found a copy of your book, I've already picked up 3-4 tips that have helped me customize my setup. =Rick=
#94285From: Paul IdolApr 5, 1993 8:35 PM
I have a NEC 5FG. I can get the image to the top and the bottom of the screen in any mode that works on the monitor, but the left and right edges of the screen are over an inch out of reach – on each side. This is really frustrating since I splurged so much on a monitor. I have a 1200 that I got at the end of January. Do I just need a new driver? For dblNTSC modes, I've stretched text overscan as far as it'll go, and for all modes I've stretched the monitor's adjustments as far as they'll go. Everything is fine vertically, but dblNTSC is bad horizontally and Multiscan productivity modes are horrible horizontally since they don't even have text overscan to help a little. Also, what's the deal with Super72? It's a joke mode! The AGA chips can only output up to 31.44kHz. -Paul
#94315From: Robert ComerApr 5, 1993 11:54 PM
Actually Super72, is a 24Mhz mode… You got me why they call it 72. Bob Comer
#94339From: Jim SteeleApr 6, 1993 2:22 AM
Check out the vertical refresh rate on the Super 72 modes- 72Hz. That's where the name comes from. Jim
#94412From: Paul IdolApr 6, 1993 6:31 PM
It's interlaced though, so it's effectively 36MHz. And horizontal is 20something, which just about nothing does. Pain. Paul
#94490From: Robert ComerApr 7, 1993 1:44 AM
Makes sense… Bob Comer
#94342From: Jonathan BlackwellApr 6, 1993 2:56 AM
Super72 referes to 72Khz VERTICAL frequency. The 24Khz is the horizontol frequency… -Jonathan
#94492From: Robert ComerApr 7, 1993 1:45 AM
Makes sense. And it sounds better than Super24 🙂 Bob Comer
#94376From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiApr 6, 1993 12:53 PM
Paul, Contact your dealer. Commodore has an update disk available that includes new monitor drivers and a new overscan prefs editor that will fix the monitor problems. However, many dealers seem to not know about this. Also, make sure that you've got the VGAOnly icon in your DEVS:Monitors drawer.
#94495From: Robert ComerApr 7, 1993 1:45 AM
My dealer knows nothing of this 🙁 I wish C= would ditribute it here. It's not as if I'm going to run it on a PC 🙂 Bob Comer
#94632From: Paul ToalApr 8, 1993 6:30 AM
Paul- Have you straightened out your problem with the NEC 5FG? I remember you were struggling with horizontal settings. –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#94684From: Paul IdolApr 8, 1993 5:43 PM
Not yet. I contacted my dealer about that update disk – he still has to get back to me. I don't have arrows on my overscan editor screen, so I guess I need it. What really puzzles me, though, is that if I squeeze the image on the monitor down all the way with the monitor's controls, the actual used screenspace is very small, but almost all the screen is grey – my Workbench background color. I hope this is fixed with the update. Thanks. -Paul
#94829From: Gracia M. LittauerApr 9, 1993 5:08 PM
My dealer said he installed the upgrade overscan editor & drivers. I don't have arrows so who knows, but the screen looks much better. I had a sick 4000 so it's hard to judge what was the problem. I have a 4000 w/Sony 1302 monitor and it's still a little off center & doesn't fill the whole screen. I have about 1/4 inch grey on left side as well as about 3/4 inch black & 1/2 bk on right.
#94298From: Mark D. ManesApr 5, 1993 10:09 PM
Denny, This dealer has heard nothing about this disk. Do you have a part number? -mark= Drivin' on Otto Pilot
#94377From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiApr 6, 1993 12:53 PM
Mark, Nope. I know some dealers have received it. (Brent Gray from Armadillo Computers has it.) I don't know how the dealer rep network is handled now, so I don't know what to suggest. All I know is the disk is available, and some dealers have it. Also, newer machines are shipping with the updated drivers. Check Overscan prefs and see if it's added arrows for shifting the screen. If so, that OS has the new drivers.