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#MS Windows Programs

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#94216From: RZ GrossmanApr 5, 1993 7:14 AM
Is there anyway (hardware or software) to run an MS Windows program on an Amiga? Just point me in the right direction, vendor name, phone number, etc. Thanks.
#94224From: Michael GerardApr 5, 1993 10:12 AM
Call Safe Harbor 800-544-6599 and order a CBM 2386 (386SX/25 Bridgeboard). Last I heard they were selling them for $199… it will install in any Amiga with internal bridgeboard slots (2000/2500/3000/4000).
#94268From: Betty Clay/SYSOPApr 5, 1993 6:20 PM
How much memory is built into the 386 BB? Can you add more on the card, or must you have a slot for addon memory? —Betty
#94324From: Michael GerardApr 6, 1993 12:41 AM
Betty, My 2386BB came w/one meg and will hold up to 8 meg of on-board ram using 1MB X 4 ZIPs.
#94366From: Betty Clay/SYSOPApr 6, 1993 11:58 AM
Thanks, Michael. Nice that it can go right on the board. —Betty
#94453From: John GagerApr 6, 1993 10:23 PM
Anyone had any luck finding 1M x 4 60ns ZIP's for the 2386 BridgeBoard? I've called a couple of places and can only get 70ns chips. Would this be good enough to run the BridgeBoard in Page mode with 0 wait states? // \X/ John – K7KB (Flying via AutoPilot)
#94459From: Dave CinegeApr 6, 1993 10:52 PM
EMC is still offering 1×4 60ns page mode zips for 18.50. That is the best price you will find on them (if you can find them) Dave Elite MicroComputers – Flying high on AutoPilot
#94511From: Michael GerardApr 7, 1993 9:57 AM
70ns chips are fine for the 25MHz an 20MHz boards. 16MHz boards can get away with 100ns chips.
#94568From: Christopher TolmieApr 7, 1993 9:03 PM
Michael, The 2386BB, it is only a 16-bit card, is this correct? That $199 dollar price is just too tempting, I believe I must have one now. But I wonder, is there a C= 486 in the wings, with 32 bitpaths? If I have 8MB of fast ram and 2MB of chip in my A2000 can I just use a jumper to disable 2MB of the fast memory (512K only really needs disabling [is this right?]but my RAM board doesn't work that way) when I need to use the BB, and then re-enable it when running just the Amiga or AMAX without removing the BB card and its cards? Chris
#94589From: Michael GerardApr 7, 1993 11:15 PM
Chris… great questions! Wish I could answer them! <g> I'm going to leave those to someone who knows the BB's better, ok?
#94618From: Dave CinegeApr 8, 1993 3:30 AM
You won't see a 32/32 bit 486 for a LONG time….it wouldn't be zorro 2 compat. unless you converted 16-bit down the line, then you lose the performance of the 32 bit path….with the 486 33 SLC and 50MHz on the way…why do you even need a 32 bit data path? Dave Elite MicroComputers – Flying high on AutoPilot
#94715From: Christopher TolmieApr 8, 1993 10:21 PM
Dave, Good point! I forgot that the A2000 is merely a 16/24 box. Guess, I'm gonna be getting me a bridgeboard. Chris
#94631From: Paul ToalApr 8, 1993 6:30 AM
Chris- Good news, I have a toggle switch on the front of my 2000 that toggles the 2 megs in and out as needed. Very nice. –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#94716From: Christopher TolmieApr 8, 1993 10:22 PM
Paul, that is good news! Well, I've waited about as long as I can for a BB. As it has been said, "It's now or never!" <grin> taking the plunge, Chris
#94705From: dick sawczukApr 8, 1993 9:05 PM
Chris, I was able to run a switch to the jumpers on my Supraram 2000 to set the configuration. I then wrote a short Arex script to act on the available memory and start my Amiga accordingly. I simply power down, flip the switch & power up depending on if I'm running my Toaster or Bridgeboard. Dick
#94504From: Pete MilesApr 7, 1993 4:20 AM
Betty, After about 3 years of pondering I've ordered a 386BB from C= today. It included 1mb of ram. I the 256k type ram is chucked you can get upto 8mb of zip ram. Cost to me is about #170 and another #200 for 4mb of zip ram. Now I can get to use all those luverly dos & windows progs. Pete
#94549From: Betty Clay/SYSOPApr 7, 1993 6:53 PM
Congratulations, Pete. I know you will use it a great deal. I'm pondering mightily about getting one of them for myself. One problem is that I really need an extra computer when my grandson comes to visit, so I'm thinking I might just get a 386 machine instead. But the BB is much less expensive. Lots to ponder. —Betty
#94590From: Michael GerardApr 7, 1993 11:15 PM
"But the BB is much less expensive." Betty, Not really… look at ALL the costs: 80 – 105 meg Hard drive 200.00 multi function card/controller/ports/VGA 200.00 memory 100.00 386BB 200.00 ——————————————————– 700.00 For $700 you can pick up a clone.
#94619From: Dave CinegeApr 8, 1993 3:30 AM
The 386sx is still out of the box usable….CGA, shared hard/floppy…. Dave Elite MicroComputers – Flying high on AutoPilot
#94641From: Michael GerardApr 8, 1993 9:42 AM
Useable, maybe… but not real functional for most. And the shared floppy (flipper) is out if you have an A-Max II+ card.
#94651From: Betty Clay/SYSOPApr 8, 1993 1:13 PM
Good point, Michael – and the clone can sit on a separate table where the grandchildren can play with it – and leave MY AMIGA alone! —Betty
#94823From: Denny Atkin [COMPUTE/AmiApr 9, 1993 4:46 PM
Betty! I'm shocked! You would expose your grandkids to (shudder) MS-DOS and deprive them of the Amiga? They'll be in counseling for years. "Yeah, I think it was Grandma and that PC thing that stunted my development…" 🙂
#94875From: Betty Clay/SYSOPApr 10, 1993 12:24 AM
ANYthing to keep my own Amiga for myself, Denny! What, ME? Selfish? How dare you suggest such a thing? —Betty
#94910From: Kelly JordanApr 10, 1993 8:46 AM
Maybe what Betty is doing could be considered "scared straight" – see what happens if you listen to the hoards/peers at school!
#94717From: Christopher TolmieApr 8, 1993 10:22 PM
Even better point to ponder…! Now I was all set to take the plunge and buy a BB. Now I have to reconsider. I found a 486SX 4MB 120MB drive, .28 VGA monitor or $998. Hmmm, it would be nice having the capability to run some intel sluff. Chris
#94751From: Joe KuzmaApr 9, 1993 4:26 AM
Unless you already have a Bridgeboard and need the faster CPU.
#94328From: Gayle Lee FairlessApr 6, 1993 12:54 AM
Michael, I've ordered one also! BTW, I apparently solved my high density drive problem. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City!
#94399From: Michael GerardApr 6, 1993 3:29 PM
Gayle, I'm glad to hear that. It's about time you gave up the ghost on that XT conglomeration you've got! <g>
#94442From: Gayle Lee FairlessApr 6, 1993 9:44 PM
Well, an XT BB does cramp my style a little. Meanwhile, I'll install Janus 2.1 that I got today from my dealer and work on my multi-serial card when I feel like it. Thanks! Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City!
#94750From: Joe KuzmaApr 9, 1993 4:24 AM
Tell me more about the CBM 2386. I have a 2000 with the 286 Bridgeboard currently and would love to upgrade to the 386SX version. But the $199 sounds too low, is that a complete Bridgeboard that I can replace my 286 one with? Will it work with my IBM hardcard?
#94757From: Michael GerardApr 9, 1993 7:49 AM
"…is that a complete Bridgeboard that I can replace my 286 one with? Will it work with my IBM hardcard?" Yup.
#94812From: Dave CinegeApr 9, 1993 3:15 PM
Yes, Yes, Yes it will plug right in, and after setting up the CMOS wilkl run like a charm…it is about 3x faster then the 286 @ 8 MHz Dave Elite MicroComputers – Flying high on AutoPilot
#94837From: Christopher TolmieApr 9, 1993 6:24 PM
Joe, If you got a 286 in there now with a floppy drive and hardcard, I would imagine just switching Bridgeboards is about the most work you'll have to do, besides installing the software update, and maybe setting a jumper. Not owning a BB (yet, considering it) I would think that would be it. Chris
#94886From: Jonathan BlackwellApr 10, 1993 1:08 AM
Yes, it is a complete 386 board!