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HD de-fragmentation

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#97004From: Charles CollinsonApr 24, 1993 2:05 AM
Did the hard disk de-fragmentation software ever get here somewhere. It was called Re-Org. Charles * Thirsk – North Yorkshire – United Kingdom *
#97038From: Steve AhlstromApr 24, 1993 2:48 PM
ReOrg 2.33 has been in Library 9 since last October. -sja
#97051From: Charles CollinsonApr 24, 1993 6:22 PM
Thanks Steve. I was actually trying to figure out where I was talking to someone about it recently. So many messages and I'm forgetting where, when. Computers!? Charles * Thirsk – North Yorkshire – United Kingdom *
#97049From: RICK GERENApr 24, 1993 5:03 PM
Charles: I use Central Coast Software (now New Horizons) program "Quarter back Tools" for defragmentation of my hard disk. Caution…..these programs are dangerous to use. QBTools works most the time, but not ALL the time. My advice. Make a good back-up. Format your hard disk and then restore it from the back-up. The files will be restored in defragmented order. This procedure is much less risky I find. Regards Rick
#97052From: Charles CollinsonApr 24, 1993 6:23 PM
Hello Rick, Yep I know the worries. I have also used QBTools, but Re-Org is much faster for me. Anyway I was trying to locate a loada folk about the Re-Org program and I've forgotten where (section) I was. Just thought this was a good guess. It wasn't but that's half the fun. I'll have to remember to use the book thing on this program. Thanks for your help, though I do recommend to use a de-frag prog over a complete format & restore, but not before you back-up the HD for safety. You may find Re-Org a more stable program than QBTools. Only a hunch but QBTools doesn't look as stable to my kinda thinking. I have also done about 20 approx. de-frags and not once a failure. Luck, maybe but still. 🙂 Thanks. P.S. I like the spelling of your surname, novel (no offence I hope). Love it. The things people do to be different. <g> (Again I hope I cause no offence, I'm just been observant) Charles * Thirsk – North Yorkshire – United Kingdom *
#97100From: Blaine R. KemetherApr 24, 1993 9:44 PM
Charles, I use Re-Org regularly (usually once a day) and have never had a problem. Twice a year I do a backup, format, and restore in order to clear deleted files from my disk. After the restore I routinely run Re-Org on the partitions which organizes them even better than AmigaDos. As to speed, QuarterBack Tools 1.5, which I used to use, took about 45min to reorganize a 26 Meg partition. Re-Org does the same partition in about 3.5 min. // Blaine \X/ On AutoPilot from New Jersey
#97183From: Charles CollinsonApr 25, 1993 4:29 PM
Yep, QBTools is very slow compared to Re-Org I agree. Another point you brought up though. Does Re-Org (or any de-frag software) re-structure deleted files (unwiped ones). What I mean is does it de-frag them as well as keep them "still" deleted. I would have thought it would wipe them off completely. Although QBTools does have a knack of bringing back ancient files. 🙂 Once a day is excessive isn't it. I know I can de-frag for the hell of it, but I rarely really need to. You can look to see the fragmentation with Re-Org 2.33 (I think, I have Version 2.31). A good sign is listening for the head moving excessively when loading a single file. Charles * Thirsk – North Yorkshire – United Kingdom *
#97247From: Blaine R. KemetherApr 25, 1993 10:23 PM
Charles, Once a day is probably excessive, but since it takes so little time, I figured I would just get into the habit of closing out any day with a re-org of my Work partition. As far as the wiped files, I thought that Re-Org would erase them also! I recently had occasion to use FixDisk on one of my partitions and, Lo and Behold, files that had been deleted months ago showed up. When I ran check deleted files, they all showed as valid! So I think I will continue my practice of semi-annual formats and restores. // Blaine \X/ On AutoPilot from New Jersey
#97417From: Pete MilesApr 27, 1993 8:49 AM
Blaine, Deleted files are not erased from your hard disk. To erase them completely format the disk. When re-org sorts the disk it is re-arranging the blocks and block pointers in the best way possible. To read about disk structures try and get hold of an article by David Joiner. he wrote this about 6 years ago but it gives a great deal of detail about how disks are written to and how AmigaDos reads and writes the disks. Pete
#97633From: Blaine R. KemetherApr 28, 1993 8:08 PM
Pete, Thanks for the info. I had concluded the same a while ago and consequently I format and restore twice a year. I had thought that in the process of re-arranging the blocks on the disk, enough of the deleted foles would be overwritten that the files would not show as recoverable. I was merely surprised, when I had occasion recently to use FIXDISK on one of my partitions, how many deleted files showed as recoverable. // Blaine \X/ On AutoPilot from New Jersey