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#Seeking CDROM Phonebook

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#17284From: Larry RachmanJan 21, 1992 4:32 PM
Can anyone out there provide some pointers toward a publisher of CDROM telephone directories. What I'm looking for is something that would provide some limited demographic information as well, such as income ranges, years at an address, or similar data. Thanks in advance, – Larry
#17299From: Travis HardinJan 22, 1992 12:39 AM
Larry, I've read somewhere that 1990 census data is beginning to be available. A small fraction of it with access software is available on the CDx disk from Helgerson Associates in Falls Church, VA, but only enough to demo the software. I believe that the census data used for the demo is of Alaska. Lots of help, huh? Travis Hardin
#17310From: Larry RachmanJan 22, 1992 8:49 AM
Travis, I thought that the census was once every ten years, which would make the data somewhat dated. Thanks for the lead anyway; I'll give Helgerson a call and see what they have to offer. Thanks, -Larry
#17345From: Dick EastmanJan 22, 1992 10:12 PM
You are correct: the census is done every 10 years. The most recent one is 1990. HOWEVER, the Federal "Right to Privacy" acts insure that data on individuals will not be released for 72 years. That means that you can get the 1990 data in the year 2062. The 1920 census data is scheduled to be released in March, 1992. Lots of help, right? <smile> The government DOES sell extracts of 1990 data, some of it is on CD-ROM. If you want demographics data (population counts of a town/city, percentage of population that is minority race and/or ethnic group, average household income, average number of bathrooms, etc.) of the 1990 census you can get it now. However, not one individual's name or address will be available until 2062. Phonebook CD-ROMs are available from non-governmental sources for about $2,000. It seems to be cheaper to use Phone*File here on CompuServe. – Dick Eastman Genealogy Forum Sysop (we do censuses)
#17410From: Larry RachmanJan 24, 1992 10:37 AM
Dick, 2 grand sounds steep, but the alternative source is considerably more expensive, and considerably less convenient than cdrom. Do you have any pointers to a source?
#17424From: Dick EastmanJan 24, 1992 9:06 PM
I've seen several ads for the phonebook CD-ROMs, but can't find one at the moment. Contact the Bureau of Electronic Publishing (they're on this forum often) or almost any other major CD-ROM vendor. If they don't sell it they probably can tell you who does. Another idea is to search the Computer Library in ZiffNet (GO ZNT or GO ZIFFNET, I think), it would definately find an address. I dunno, I use Phone*File for $27.50 per hour ($12.50 for CompuServe plus a $15 surcharge). I rarely use it more than 5 or 10 minutes at a time. I'd have to use it a lot to spend the $2,000 that a CD-ROM would cost. <smile> – Dick
#17461From: David J. CardinalJan 25, 1992 1:40 PM
Try Nelson Ford (Public Software Lib). He hangs out in the forum. I think I saw that he sold some phonebook/CD products, and since he sells them practically at his cost, his prices will almost always be the best.
#17300From: Bruce De VriesJan 22, 1992 1:46 AM
There are some national CD-ROM directories of business addresses that include some data about the companies. Individual listings are available from some telephone companies. New York (NYNEX) is one of the areas that is covered, but no demographic data is provided because it is not collected or is confidential credit data. Credit bureaus can provide data, but access is controlled by legislation intended to protect consumers from people like you <g>.
#17311From: Larry RachmanJan 22, 1992 8:49 AM
Bruce, >credit data. Credit bureaus can provide data, but access is controlled by >legislation intended to protect consumers from people like you <g>. I'm not looking for top secret or private information, just the same information that is found the Coles directory (available in many public libraries), but in machine-readable form. Coles wants megabucks for it in the convenient form of 9-track tape, so I'm exploring the alternatives. FWIW, the Coles record includes only name, address, phone number, year the phone was installed, and a letter code that supposedly corresponds to the range [poverty] – – – – [Trump]. Usually, its the same for everyone on the block. This may be a borderline violation of privacy, but its really not that different from what you can find out by driving past the house and seeing if the car in the driveway is a Pinto or a Porsche Thanks for the information re: NYNEX, etc. -Larry