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#Internal Clock is DEAD

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#47113From: Chris L. PerhayJan 23, 1992 10:01 PM
I was wondering if anyone can help me with a small problem. It seems that the clock in my A501 memory expansion has gone bye, bye. Whenever I try to load, or save the time, I get the message "Battery Backed up Clock not found". I still have the 1Meg of memory, but no clock. I use the computer on a daily basis, so I know that the battery has the chance to charge. Is there any way to just fix the clock, or is the whole unit shot. I took a look at it, and it looks like when they made it, they didn't want anyone opening it. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Chris P.S. I got the A501 at the same time as the computer, about 4 1/2 yrs ago.
#47115From: ICD, Inc.Jan 23, 1992 10:34 PM
I don't think the 501 has a rechargeable battery, but I don't think the battery is your problem. From CLI, type SETCLOCK RESET. That should take care of it. Craig
#47173From: Chris L. PerhayJan 24, 1992 6:49 PM
OK, I tried it, but I got the same message. The A501 does have a rechargeable battery. Any other hints?
#47204From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 24, 1992 11:41 PM
Chris, It may have changed, but the A501 didn't have a rechargeable battery. Don't use the 1.3 version of setclock, that won't work. Use either the 1.2 version or the 1.3.2, or 2.04 version of setclock to do the reset. Once you do that, you then need to set the clock (after you've set the Amiga's time via preferences) via the setclock SAVE option. Don
#47224From: Chris L. PerhayJan 25, 1992 9:15 AM
Don, I was using the 1.3 version of setclock. It will take some work to get my 1.2 disks out of where I have them stored. Thanks for the info. Chris
#47308From: Don Curtis/SYSOPJan 26, 1992 12:32 AM
Chris, In LIB 14 here, is a file WB132.ZOO that is the official 1.3.2 update from Commodore. The version of SetClock in it works properly. You'll need ZOO in order to extract the files. Don
#47139From: Dominick J. FontanaJan 24, 1992 2:54 AM
Chris, Try the "Setclock Reset" command from the CLI. Good luck. Dom Fontana
#47174From: Chris L. PerhayJan 24, 1992 6:51 PM
Tried it, no good, same error message. Next!
#47329From: Dominick J. FontanaJan 26, 1992 2:59 AM
Chris, Sorry, then I don't know what's wrong with your clock. It sounds like you should bring it in for service. Dom Fontana
#47171From: Victor HoytJan 24, 1992 5:54 PM
Chris, I had the same problem so I opened up the 501 case. The battery is not expected to be changed. (The new M501 has a replaceable battery.) I set the clock and left the computer on for 6 hours. That did the trick. Try that is SetClock Reset does'nt work. Rechargeable batteries develope a memory after awhile, perhaps thats the problem. I've noticed it with battery powered tools in my business. Vic.
#47175From: Chris L. PerhayJan 24, 1992 7:01 PM
Vic, I tried the 'setclock reset', but I got the same error message. Maybe you could explain what you did to fix your problem. I'm alittle vague with how you fixed it. I know that rechargable batteries have a memory, but the standard solution is to leave the unit on for 12 hours to completely drain the battery, then charge for 12 to 14 hours. I don't know how to drain the A501's battery. I had to leave my computer in storage from mid 89 to mid 90, and when I booted it up, it knew the time exactly. Now what? Chris……
#47193From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJan 24, 1992 10:22 PM
Chris, Which versioin of SETCLOCK are you using? The version that came with 1.3 Enhancer kits did not work. The version from 1.2 will work, as will the one in 1.3.2, but there was a problem with the one in the straight 1.3 – it didn't reset. Betty
#47223From: Chris L. PerhayJan 25, 1992 9:12 AM
Betty, I am using the one that came with the 1.3 Enhancer Kit. I have 1.2 somewhere, but it won't be that easy to get to. It's in the computers box, and the box is stored at a friends house, about an hours drive on a good day. Thank you for the info though, I'll see what I can do to get my 1.2 disks back. Chris…..
#47227From: Roy PahnkeJan 25, 1992 10:45 AM
Chris – If you don't have 1.2 really available, then you can down load version 1.3.1 update from the forums here on CIS. There is a new setclock in that file. – Roy Pahnke – Casper, Wyomin'
#47231From: Betty Clay/SYSOPJan 25, 1992 11:34 AM
Maybe you could get the 1.3.2 update from someone around you. It fixed the bug, and I think it will do the job for you. Betty
#47239From: Chris L. PerhayJan 25, 1992 12:09 PM
Betty, I downloaded the 1.3.2 update, and the new setclock did fix the problem. I just wish I knew how it got screwed up in the first place. I've never had this kind of problem before. Thank you for all your help, it was greatly appreciated. Chris.
#47342From: Nigel SmithJan 26, 1992 11:46 AM
I had the same probs with my amiga 500 after trying a program called unset clock. This little proggy was unintentialy run after its download and actualy caused the clock to screw up. Unfortunately, I didn`t know what had happened at the time and suspected a faulty expansion/clock problem. I even got to the point of taking the board out to insect it. After a frantic telephone call to the manufacturers I was told I would have to return it. I was not pleased. I decided to investigate further and found that the battery read the correct voltage. I had been informed there is a `bit` that occasionaly gets `set` when some obscure or wayward programing is run. I decided to check what my proggy. `Unset clock` did and found it did just that. I then at least didn`t get that confounded dreaded message `battery clock not found` or whatever it said. After reseting the time via the cli everything worked fine, but I still find, very rarely, there are a few proggs.(usualy freeware) that cause it too in effect dissappear. – via Whap!
#47288From: Victor HoytJan 25, 1992 8:23 PM
Chris, I'm a little vague too. All I did was leave the computer on for a long time. I got tired of the "not found" message and that was all i could think of to do. As I said, I opened the sucker up (had to cut a tab) and the battery inside doesn't look replacable. M501's are pretty cheap and have removable batteries. Perhaps thats the least agravating solution. Vic.
#47302From: Chris L. PerhayJan 26, 1992 12:04 AM
Thanks, I got a version of setclock that worked. Everything works fine now. Chris
#47382From: Steve SetzerJan 26, 1992 8:44 PM
Chris, There is a file in the libs called `CallBack2Life' (don't remeber the archive name) but a search with the keyword clock ought to find it, that will reset a dead clock. Don't know how it will operate with battery problems, but some system crashes will completely scramble the clock and this program works well. ..Steve Whap!ping from beautiful coastal South Carolina
#47436From: mark rosemanJan 27, 1992 3:09 PM
There is also a program called fixclock which solved the problem you described in my 500. If you can't find it let me know and I will uload it. If I still have it.