Pyrite Nodules
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Jerry,
All that talk about Devonian shale got me to check out the stuff I got
in the local area. In a nearby stream, I found about 8 pyrite nodules.
Pretty interesting pieces. They look like squat mushrooms, about
1 – 1.5" tall and 1.3 – 3" tall. Little pyrite crystals poke out of the "cap".
If I remember right, you like minerals more than fossils. Would you like
one?
Joe
PS – Do you know what I could use to dissolve the shale to show more
pyrite?
Hi Joe–
If I recall rightly, I already have a pyrite (G), but if you want, I wouldn't
turn down an odd shaped specimen. I'm putting together your stuff right now,
and for an extra pyrite, I might be able to toss in a few Pennsylvanian leaves
(DANG! I still haven't found any dragonflies!) or Miocene clamshells……
You recall rightly. My main forte is minerals. I'm a chemist and a
crystallographer. My hobby (and if the market were right, my profession) would
be minerals. (Go figure….. (G)) (I have tons of them in my front yard, all up
for trade.)
My interest in fossils comes from the fact that I live in, and always have,
fossil areas. Cincinatti Ordovician, here (MAJOR Devonian), etc. Minerals *are*
better, but *I* should be fussy? Toss in a pyrite, I'll toss in extra fossils.
Dissolving shale: You're asking *me*? I'm soon going to be a consulting chemist
and hopefully feed my face giving advice. (And no, I don't plan on charging
members of the forum. This is the *FUN* part…..) Anyway, shale (God, I HATE
shale!! (G)) or mudstone is, roughly speaking, solidified Silt Of The Ages.
That will be mostly quartz and other silica forms, and clay minerals, and
calcite fossils. Hydrofluoric acid will work. It will also destroy the fossil
and pose *MAJOR* health risks. Any acid will likely destroy the fossil. BUT not
the shale. (DANG!!!) For some shales, with a high clay content, household
ammonia will loosen the fossils a tad, allowing easier work. Depends on the
shale. But in most cases, shale is *ONLY* worked with hand tools. Perhaps you
begin to understand why I hate shale.
You didn't ask, but limestone isn't much better. It dissolves in almost any
acid. So do the fossils, for the most part. Fossils in most cases need hand
work, unless they're silicified or pyritized. As in, most fossils can't be
chemically etched. I'd be a millionaire otherwise…….JD
Jerry
I collected some Ordovician this weekend (for the first time). On Route 125,
just west
of Georgetown, Ohio. Got a dozen of nice, whole brachiopods. And some kid
found
the only trilobite (it figures).
I already have some Miocene clamshells. I wouldn't mind duplicate Devonian
fossils
instead.
BTW, some of my pyrite has been identified by others as marcasite. And its
starting
to tarnish (I don't know what else to call it. It was silver, now its black).
One of the
guys in my rock group said it was "unstable". Got any suggestions on how to
stablize it?
Joe
There was quite a bit of debate about stabilizing pyrite on the Internet
rocks-and-fossils list. I think the one sentence summary was, keep it
super-dry, don't paint it with anything, and nothing's going to "fix" it.
How big are the brachs you found?
John,
The biggest one I found (I think it's a Platystrophia ponderosa) is about
1.5" across. I also have a Rafinesquina about the same size.
Joe