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Pyrite Nodules

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#128917From: Joseph R. HayesApr 20, 1994 6:25 PM
Jerry, All that talk about Devonian shale got me to check out the stuff I got in the local area. In a nearby stream, I found about 8 pyrite nodules. Pretty interesting pieces. They look like squat mushrooms, about 1 – 1.5" tall and 1.3 – 3" tall. Little pyrite crystals poke out of the "cap". If I remember right, you like minerals more than fossils. Would you like one? Joe PS – Do you know what I could use to dissolve the shale to show more pyrite?
#129244From: jerry dedrickApr 24, 1994 12:27 AM
Hi Joe– If I recall rightly, I already have a pyrite (G), but if you want, I wouldn't turn down an odd shaped specimen. I'm putting together your stuff right now, and for an extra pyrite, I might be able to toss in a few Pennsylvanian leaves (DANG! I still haven't found any dragonflies!) or Miocene clamshells…… You recall rightly. My main forte is minerals. I'm a chemist and a crystallographer. My hobby (and if the market were right, my profession) would be minerals. (Go figure….. (G)) (I have tons of them in my front yard, all up for trade.) My interest in fossils comes from the fact that I live in, and always have, fossil areas. Cincinatti Ordovician, here (MAJOR Devonian), etc. Minerals *are* better, but *I* should be fussy? Toss in a pyrite, I'll toss in extra fossils. Dissolving shale: You're asking *me*? I'm soon going to be a consulting chemist and hopefully feed my face giving advice. (And no, I don't plan on charging members of the forum. This is the *FUN* part…..) Anyway, shale (God, I HATE shale!! (G)) or mudstone is, roughly speaking, solidified Silt Of The Ages. That will be mostly quartz and other silica forms, and clay minerals, and calcite fossils. Hydrofluoric acid will work. It will also destroy the fossil and pose *MAJOR* health risks. Any acid will likely destroy the fossil. BUT not the shale. (DANG!!!) For some shales, with a high clay content, household ammonia will loosen the fossils a tad, allowing easier work. Depends on the shale. But in most cases, shale is *ONLY* worked with hand tools. Perhaps you begin to understand why I hate shale. You didn't ask, but limestone isn't much better. It dissolves in almost any acid. So do the fossils, for the most part. Fossils in most cases need hand work, unless they're silicified or pyritized. As in, most fossils can't be chemically etched. I'd be a millionaire otherwise…….JD
#129421From: Joseph R. HayesApr 25, 1994 4:50 PM
Jerry I collected some Ordovician this weekend (for the first time). On Route 125, just west of Georgetown, Ohio. Got a dozen of nice, whole brachiopods. And some kid found the only trilobite (it figures). I already have some Miocene clamshells. I wouldn't mind duplicate Devonian fossils instead. BTW, some of my pyrite has been identified by others as marcasite. And its starting to tarnish (I don't know what else to call it. It was silver, now its black). One of the guys in my rock group said it was "unstable". Got any suggestions on how to stablize it? Joe
#129536From: SyndesisApr 26, 1994 3:02 PM
There was quite a bit of debate about stabilizing pyrite on the Internet rocks-and-fossils list. I think the one sentence summary was, keep it super-dry, don't paint it with anything, and nothing's going to "fix" it. How big are the brachs you found?
#129575From: Joseph R. HayesApr 26, 1994 7:57 PM
John, The biggest one I found (I think it's a Platystrophia ponderosa) is about 1.5" across. I also have a Rafinesquina about the same size. Joe