#AAA halted
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I have been hearing more and more places that devolpment on the AAA chipset has
been halted. One rumor I have heard they would be obselete when released, so a
better than AAA chipset is being considered. Anybody have any info???
Richard -> AutoPilot on the A1000
Richard,
That rumor's been flying around for awhile.
Mark Manes questioned Dave Haynie on that subject a while ago. Dave said that
he couldn't comment but that everything that was talked about for the Next
Generation graphics in his and Randall's CO here is still valid.
(When I say "A while ago" I don't remember the time frame — 2-3 weeks ago)
This time I heard Denny Atkin posted it on GEnie as being official. I had
trouble believing this one so I thought I would ask. Denny are you
around? These rumors are getting out of hand.
Richard -> AutoPilot on the A1000
It originally came from Jim Meyer in his ViewPort mag.
Denny posted on GEnie that David Pleasance at the recent show in the UK
admitted publicly that AAA development was 'on hold'.
Denny can clarify this when he next shows up here.
ML
Mr. Pleasance has a splendid reputation for having no clue whatsoever what
the hell Engineering is doing. At least he does among those in
Engineering.
— Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
— INTERNET:dale@iam.com
Mr. Pleasance's reputation: I realize that; however, Mr. Pleasance is an
eternal optimist and has promised stuff that isn't developed. If he publicly
admits that AAA is on hold, then I would think that he is sobering up.
Dale, this isn't for you—it's for everybody else.
Some people here are telling you Commodore will be shipping AAA machines this
fall. Others are telling you AAA has been cancelled. Who should you believe? If
a developer had any information about AAA machines, it would be covered by a
non-disclosure agreement. So if a developer is telling you that they are
working on a AAA machine, they're either breaking their non-disclosure
agreement or they actually inhaled.
Enjoy the Amiga now. If you're saving up for a new Amiga, don't wait forever
for AAA or some other dream. Buy an AGA machine, a new graphic board, or
something else, and _enjoy_ it. An Amiga is a cool computer, get some fun out
of what is available now and don't wait for something that may or may not ever
ship. We all know Commodore's management is management-challenged. Does it
really matter if they go out of business? If you bought a new computer today,
you'd probably use it for five years then buy a new one. There will be new
software and hardware for years regardless of whether Commodore's management
gets a clue. Maybe not as much as for a PC, but if you bought a PC now, you'd
be replacing it all in five years so it doesn't really matter. So what if the
Amiga never became the mainstream computer, or if it won't be around forever?
Nothing is forever, and you got to be part of a group using the neatest
computer ever made.
The ride isn't over yet, so don't jump off. And don't wait for the next car,
because you might miss out on the best part of the ride.
Michael Soft-Logik
Well put Mike.
Randy
Traveling the $uper Information Highway
> Well pu Mike.
And again
> Traveling the $uper Information Highway
^
:
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> The ride isn't over yet, so don't jump off. And don't wait for the next
> car, because you might miss out on the best part of the ride.
Right on, that was spot on the mark. Thats why I have purchased my new
A1200 and decked it out with +4Mb RAM, 160Meg drive, FPU.
Why wait? I'd have to buy a PC if Commodore died! Hopefully the HP RISC PC
will come through, otherwise 3-4yrs down the track, I might buy myself a
PowerPC. The technology should have matured by then.
As a side note, buying a Games Console now would be crazy, so many
formats, no leaders. Does anyone know if the 3DO ships in any country but
America?
Regards,
Andre Lackmann On AutoPilot and still outta control
3DO is shipping in Japan (and reportedly doing well) and is set for European
roll out in late summer.
Todd
The US price on 3DO has dropped as low as $449, which looks bad for CD32
until you realize that most of the 3DO software is in the $60 street-price
range. A real yup-box.
CD32 is now (approx) $299 in Europe.
The price of the CD32 has been dropping steadily in Europe as well. The
price differential appears to stay in parallel.
-Jonathan
// Amiga online via Autopilot. MAC Quadra 900 and
\\// 486 emulation. E-Mail: jonathanb@delrina.com
"The US price on 3DO has dropped as low as $449, which looks bad for CD32 until
you realize that most of the 3DO software is in the $60 street-price range."
Yeah but lots of the 3DO software is of much high qualilty than many of the
CD32 titles. Most of the CD32 stuff (with a few exceptions) are just Amiga
ports on a CDROM.
Nick
Well, when you realize most, if not all, of the cd-32 titles are straight ports
from the Amiga floppy version, then you know that the 3DO prices are on par.
The 3DO stuff takes up megabytes of space while the cd-32's don't.
rich
the 3DO ships in Japan and the Europe rollout is this Summer or Fall I believe.
Nick
Mike,
>We all know Commodore's management is management-challenged.
I think you have coined a new way of talking about CBM Management. 🙂
"May the Warp be with you!" (c) 1993 Michael McCormick
and given me the title for the paper. I love it!
The Four Seasons of Southern California:
Fire, Flood, Earthquake, and Riot.
Well said.
Dave
Pleasance did state at a public press conference at ECTS about two weeks
ago that AAA was currently on hold. He placed the blame for the hold on
the fact that the chief chip designer had left a while back. While that of
course is a snag, knowing what I do about what's been going on at CBM, I
think that was just a factor and the expense of continued development for
a future machine when they can't afford to ship current machines had more
to do with it.
And now the massive layoffs. I am a bit depressed about all this, needless
to say. 🙁
I spoke to Jonathan Anderson, from Commodore UK this morning. The 'hold' on
the AAA chipset is for financial reasons. They simply do not have enough money
left to have the 2nd proto AAA chipset produced (it was completed, but there is
nobody currently there to fix any future problems).
I feel for those guys in England… I was talking to three of them via a
conference call and they are all sweating… evidently, Commodore UK is paying
for the rest of Commodore right now..
Denny –
> And now the massive layoffs. I am a bit depressed about all this,
> needless to say. 🙁
Uh oh. Incorrigably upbeat Denny is "a bit depressed about all this".
NOW I'm worried…. <g>
. . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
Several chip weanies are left at C=…
— Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
— INTERNET:dale@iam.com