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#Landscape modelling

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#163948From: Mary GabbApr 10, 1995 3:43 PM
In order to situate the 3D image of a building, I need to create a realistic modeling of the landscape. I have the contour map (bird's eye view). How can I draw the landscape in Autodesk 3D Studio? Are there any Usenet news groups devoted Audodesk 3D Studio?
#163953From: LEE STEELApr 10, 1995 4:33 PM
Do you have Yost Group disk #7 IPAS Botique? If so you could use your elevations to paint a map which could be used to "Displace" the surface.
#164037From: Mike White SunDog Pro.Apr 10, 1995 10:20 PM
Autocad and 3d surf. Works real good. You have good control for placement of buildings. You also can try Vistapro. In Vistapro using ocean and lakes you can create flat spots, also you can displace via PCX in. Mike White [SDP]
#164207From: Heinz SchullerApr 11, 1995 5:18 PM
Hi Mary, ->"I have the contour map (bird's eye view). How can I draw the landscape in Autodesk 3D Studio?" I just did this for a client who's building a large outdoor performing arts theatre. It really depends on how much resolution you need. My client had a difficult contour map (only had about a 50' variation over a 1/2 mile square area). They only had a print hardcopy with the architectural plans and it was combined with sewer lines, etc.. After my head stopped spinning, I did this: 1. Plotted a 50×50 grid over the drawing (that's 2500 points) 2. Recorded the Z values (elevations) into a text file 3. Downloaded a utility from the Vistapro bbs that converts a text file full of Z coordinates into a Vistapro DEM file. 4. Loaded the DEM into Vistapro and exported DXF to 3D Studio. Was a pain but worked great and I had killer accuracy when it came down to placing all the structures and landscaping components onto the mesh. The Displace ipas was not an option in this case, and the original Autocad drawings had text labels *embedded* into each contour line (flattened into the same layer with the contour lines). Good luck, -Heinz.
#164355From: Steve OrmondeApr 12, 1995 12:27 PM
Heinz, >> The Displace ipas was not an option in this case, << Why? – Steve Ormonde
#164417From: Heinz SchullerApr 12, 1995 5:39 PM
Hi Steve, ->>" >> The Displace ipas was not an option in this case, << ->"Why?" An architectural grading plan (or contour plan) is generally just a bunch of curvy lines with elevations labeled for each line. In this case the hardcopy of the grading plan was combined with the sewer and road plans. And the original acad drawing had the grading plan layer isolated, but had copious text labels embedded into each line. This particular plan had about 500 different grading lines drawn on it. I did try converting the acad file to dxf, importing via illustrator into photoshop, stripping out the text labels and creating a grayscale map suitable for a displace operation. However, it was pretty much impossible to paint smooth transitions between all the countour lines so that the gray shades would be correctly interpreted to represent the correct elevation. Since my landscape had Z extents between 18' and 70' over about a 1/2 square mile area, the gray shading between elvations would have been very slight. In the end, and considering the number of objects I had to place onto the landscape (including lots of contour-aligned fences), I decided to go the other route. I'm sure someone with more displace experience could've done this using displace, but it just looked like a longer, less accurate road. However, I do use displace for lots of other things. <g> -Heinz.
#164585From: Steve OrmondeApr 13, 1995 11:51 AM
Thanks, Heinz, I'm kind of in the same boat right now. One of our projects requires a pretty complex site plan model and all we have are the blue prints. The experience you shared gives me a new angle of attack on this thing! – Steve Ormonde
#164496From: Ryan C. PattersonApr 13, 1995 1:18 AM
There is aprogram called Topo XYZ which will give you xyz coord for any data set. It is included with an autolisp program that converts this to autocad mesh file – export as dxf into 3ds – this may be quicker if you have autocad. Ryan @ IMI
#164636From: Heinz SchullerApr 13, 1995 5:07 PM
Hi Ryan, ->"It (Topo XYZ) is included with an autolisp program that converts this to autocad mesh file – export as dxf into 3ds – this may be quicker if you have autocad." Thanks for the info. When you say "Topo XYZ…will give you xyz coord for any data set", I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about USGS data sets? -Heinz.
#164698From: Ryan C. PattersonApr 14, 1995 1:14 AM
Topo XYZ: Yes, it will take USGS data sets, but will also take any format in xyz coord. It reads in data much like a database program and outputs a file for the autolisp program. I Have found it to be very accurate. What kind of data or coord are you using. XYZ can also read polar. Ryan