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#3.1 is pirate software

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#192480From: henry tellerApr 14, 1995 9:49 AM
Hi Steve – How are AmigaDOS users going to access this function? Currently we are told to use 3.1, but that rev of AmigaDOS was released without Commodore approval and is not authorized yet. It belongs to the new owner of Commodore, on April 20th. I do understand that CEI is prepared to release 3.4 when they have a signed contract, but until then 3.1 is pirate software. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our business with P.O.M.P. under all circumstances
#192502From: Joachim SondermannApr 14, 1995 2:43 PM
Hank, I don't think 3.1 is pirated software (I have to admit that I'm no lawyer, though <g>). It has been released by VillageTronic of Germany with approval by Commodore Germany, at least. I remember that there has been even support by Dr. Peter Kittel, then still employed by C= Germany. If I recall it correctly he conceded that it has been a premature release due to the circumstances of C= already being in agony, but never pointed out to be something illegal. Joachim Sondermann-Bieker on Amiga AutoPilot 1.80 from Cologne, Germany
#192610From: henry tellerApr 15, 1995 11:45 AM
Joachim, In conversations with CEI, they believe it is the property of whomever buys the Commodore assets. At that time, the new owners have the option to pursue their ownership and any royalties due. I guess we'll find out within the next week or so. I had problems with it on an Amiga 2000 with a GVP 040, so I pulled it out and returned it. The Toaster wouldn't boot up. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our business with P.O.M.P. under all circumstances
#192693From: Hank DuckmanApr 15, 1995 7:50 PM
My A2000 @GVP 040 has been running flawlessly with OS 3.1. I don't have a Toaster, however. Hank
#192725From: Jonathan BlackwellApr 16, 1995 3:53 AM
I have a similar setup and have no problems with OS 3.1. It _is_ a legal OS. -Jonathan MAC Quadra/486PC compatible courtesy Amiga, Emplant and BB. Emplant beta tester. Running AP v1.80. E-mail: JonathanB@delrina.com http://www.delrina.com
#192788From: neil brewittApr 16, 1995 4:29 PM
<<I have a similar setup and have no problems with OS 3.1. It _is_ a legal OS.>> Do you mind me asking what revision your kickstart is? I upgraded to 3.1 a couple of weeks ago, to KS 40.68 and WB 40.42. Now, although my '3000 works pretty much fine, I have had problems with someprograms having garbage pixels written to their screens. I'm wondering if the install program for the new WB version didn't replace some libraries it should. I'm also a little worried because I heard the latest '3000 KS3.1 was version 40.70. Thanks, Neil. ** Manchester, UK ** == Musician ==
#192875From: Jonathan BlackwellApr 17, 1995 12:34 AM
I have KS version 40.63 for the A2000. It may very well be different for the A3000. I don't have any of the symptoms you describe. -Jonathan MAC Quadra/486PC compatible courtesy Amiga, Emplant and BB. Emplant beta tester. Running AP v1.80. E-mail: JonathanB@delrina.com http://www.delrina.com
#192514From: Dale LarsonApr 14, 1995 3:54 PM
Bull!!!! Who ever told you 3.1 was released without Commodore approval and is not authorized is stupid or lying. I'm sorry, but I'm sick of this. Commodore licensed lots of software before it went under, and 3.1 was approved, authorized and licensed. You can by legitimate 3.1 upgrade kits. There may be pirate kits out there, too, but that hardly makes every kit a pirate kit. dale@iam.com http://www.iam.com Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#193097From: henry tellerApr 17, 1995 11:02 PM
Hi Dale – Didn't mean to upset anyone, but my sources say that 3.1 was never released for publication. It was provided, prerelease, to Villatronic for their video board R&D and when Commodore went under they were stuck. Their board wouldn't work without it, so they packaged 3.1 and sold it, and their board. But, of course, all this will wash out with the new owner, come Thursday or Friday anyway. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our business with P.O.M.P. under all circumstances
#193125From: Dale LarsonApr 18, 1995 1:55 AM
Your source is wrong, period. Commodore Germany licensed it to them. dale@iam.com http://www.iam.com Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#192554From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaApr 14, 1995 11:44 PM
Hank (and anybody else, I guess), I have recently gained access to a source close to the Escom deal and CPR (aka the Chinese), an old friend of mine as it turns out, who tells me CEI is basically full of hot gas and no money. Put it in the FWIW dept, until the 21st … DJ Autopilot 1.80 by Steve Ahlstrom From Queens, Center of the Looniverse …
#192569From: Paul IdolApr 15, 1995 12:32 AM
That's bad news. 🙁 Escom doesn't seem to care much at all about the Amiga, though I guess there's a chance they'd liscense it to interested party(ies), and C= UK has ranged from solid to flakey in reports. Basically, we're just surplus white lab mice in this situation. Nothing we can do about it, and no one really cares what happens to us. At least we won't have to wait much longer. I'd imagine that if there were any successful objections filed we would have heard about them by now. Mr. Zombie
#193021From: Alex BakerApr 17, 1995 7:36 PM
I've made my decisions based on, no more Amigas – ever, since about last September. If any of the groups had the bucks to mount a serious effort, with any realistic chance of succeeding, then they would have had the bucks to make the liquidators sit up and take notice. Either Escom is run by geniuses, or nobody else could figure out a way to get things going. In the meantime, I'm going shopping for a 24 bit display board for my 3000. – Alex…. Still Whap!'n after all these years
#193042From: Paul IdolApr 17, 1995 8:28 PM
I'd recommend the CyberVision64, but who knows–let's all wait and see how it looks when it's actually released. Unfortunately, I agree about the no more Amigas–more or less. Mr. Zombie