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#193507From: Wayne ColeApr 20, 1995 3:46 AM
CEI's financing was pulled, accroding to my source, because Alex and his lawyera acted "like idiots" and "pissed off the liquidators about every other week" and "caused months of unnecessary delays in ther resolution of the C= technology sale" and generally "have 2-digit IQ's". My source was arranging CEI's financing, but 10 days prior to NAB pulled it in favor of a deal trying to aquire one peice of the technology for his opwn company from Escom when Escom gets the nod tomorrow. At least thats what he said… wmc – via Autopilot!
#193519From: henry tellerApr 20, 1995 8:08 AM
Well, I guess all the guessing will be over, as the auction is today. Hank Videology, Inc Where service is our business with P.O.M.P. under all circumstances
#193573From: daniel stripesApr 20, 1995 4:42 PM
There is always an ulterior motive… even when not intentional. //daniel \X/ AP 1.80
#193610From: Ian J. EinmanApr 20, 1995 8:25 PM
Not all of CEI's financing was pulled, that is false. They were present at the bid, and I beleive they are trying to work out a deal with someone else (like ESCOM?) about something, at least this is what I heard from someone who KNOWS Alex Amor and is keeping up on this. Rumors that CEI lost their financing, are rumours. However, CEI did not win the bid, nor will they probably acquire the Amiga. But I wanted to mention this.
#193637From: Alex BakerApr 20, 1995 11:40 PM
I certainly am _NOT_ calling you a liar. I believe you were told what you were told. However the fact that CEI didn't even make a bid, speaks volumes for the financing they had, or the lack thereof. If they couldn't come up with the bucks to make a bid, how were they ever going to be able to "start production the next day". All that flak about having contracts ready to go, and suppliers on standby. Bet those ready to go suppliers feel a little funny about waiting on a guy who couldn't come up with the scratch to make even a loosing bid. So it wasn't all pulled. Evidently what was left was cab fare.
#193736From: Marion J DelandApr 21, 1995 2:35 PM
"If they couldn't come up with the bucks to make a bid, how were they ever going to be able to "start production the next day". " Maybe they already made an agreement with Escom as to what would happen IF Escom won the bid… Marion Deland CROSSINGS – Newsletter for Amiga/PC/Mac compatibility
#193829From: henry tellerApr 22, 1995 12:05 AM
ESCOM BUYS COMMODORE On April 20th, 1995 Escom's bid of $6.4 million became the bid of record for the Auction of Commodore's remaining assets. It received a counter bid from Dell Computers, the silent partner supporting CEI of Florida, of $7.3 million. In addition, three objections to the auction where heard. One from IBM claimed rights to Commodore patents under an agreement made many years ago wherein IBM and Commodore exchanged patent rights. On April 21, 1995, Dell computer increased its offer to $15 million, with the contracted plans to have CEI begin managment of the Amiga Computer manufacturing company, resulting from the purchase of the remaining Commodore assets. Prior to lunch, the presiding judge indicated to Escom, that they could have the winning bid if they increased their current offer of $6.4 million to a total of $13.4 million. After lunch, Escom made the bid of $13.4 million and was awarded the contract for the purchase of Commodore's assets. It is believed that Escom has already made arrangements for a company based in Beijing to purchase the manufacturing portion of the contract and leave Escom with the German trademark and Commodore name for German marketing, the original asset that Escom wanted. Although the bid was supposed to go to the highest bidder, there was some discussion as to the whether all of the patents, as listed as Commodore's assets, where free and clear. With the possibility that any manufacturing effort would result in continued royalty payments for those unclear patent rights, CEI and Dell had argued for clear title to all Commodore assets. Whether there is a possiblity of appeal, from the short changed creditors, or whether Escom will be seeking a stateside manufacturer or distributor for the possible Amigas, and what the Beijing company is planning to do with the Amiga, should its rumored contract with Escom be real, is not known at this time. This is the situation with Commodore as I know it, Friday, April 21st, 1995 at 11:41PM EST. Hank Teller Videology, Inc Where service is our business with P.O.M.P. under all circumstances
#193923From: Eulogio (DJ) GarciaApr 22, 1995 1:05 PM
Hank, The following is a messaged I just received from a very close friend of mine who is very close to the Escom deal: >> Left you a voice mail message. Escom got it. Alex went in with Dell Computer with a stupid bid. No other valid bids. My company has a Letter of Intent to do a joint venture with Escom whereby we assemble a team of ex-Commodre/Amiga experts to help them re-start the R&D and production and provide other services in return for a license to use the Amiga technology in interactive set-tops world wide. Our guys are going to Germany in about 10 days to hammer-out details. << The voice mail said basically the same. I take this at face value. This guy is no BSer. Another thing he mentioned a couple of weeks ago was that there are potential patent or copyright infringements which might possibly be litigated successfully, in particular dealing with 3DO, but he wasn't sure how far it could be taken under the current circumstances. I'll keep you guys posted when I hear anything more. Also noticed the delays are down to 10 days from two weeks <g>. DJ Autopilot 1.80 by Steve Ahlstrom From Queens, Center of the Looniverse …
#193981From: daniel stripesApr 22, 1995 7:55 PM
Thanks for the information! //daniel \X/ AP 1.80
#193674From: Wayne ColeApr 21, 1995 2:22 AM
Ian, I know the gentleman who was arranging the financing for Alex and I spoke to him about the situation on 13 April. He was working with Aleix since near day one, and when he and his team broke off the aggreement with Alex, it was because, as he put it, both Alex and his Lawyer have 2-digit IQ's and their constant bungling and messing with the liquidators actually delayed the final resolution by several months. His opinions/observations, so I can't argue them, but I've know this guy for years and he does not generally misrepresent basic facts though his opinions about them are sometimes stated in harsh extremes. wmc – via Autopilot!
#193805From: Larry D. BoyllApr 21, 1995 9:27 PM
Having known Alex… I can say that he ought to be under Irving Gould's yacht scraping barnacles. ldb