CompuServe Thread

Software from Hell

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#102246From: Nick CondosMay 3, 1990 11:47 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the developer's package called "Software From Hell" from Conceptualy Advance Technologies. I'm interested in switching to C from Pascal and I saw an add for it in an old Transactor, and I am wondering if it is any good. Thanx for your support, — Nick
#102308From: SyndesisMay 4, 1990 7:23 AM
Check a recent issue of AmigaWorld, the month before or before that, there was a review of Software from Hell. They said it was mostly good, as I recall, except the code was sloppy in spots.
#102377From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMay 4, 1990 3:12 PM
Nick, Bryce Nesbitt wrote a review of that in a recent AmigaWorld. I believe it was the May issue. ……Betty
#102417From: Black Belt SystemsMay 4, 1990 7:54 PM
Yes – I bought it. It's entirely Manx C, and is rife with bugs, as supplied or converted into Lattice. It's full of good ideas and so on, but you'll have a LOT of work to do with it if you intend to USE what he has there. Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#102518From: Richard ConnerMay 5, 1990 6:23 AM
You may have bought it, but you didn't send in your warranty card! 🙂 There's an upgrade (FREE mind you 😉 ) that's gonna be going out inside of a month… that fixes any known bugs, and adds a few new functions as well. How about a nice quick requester function…. compatible with Steve Tibbet's if you've seen it. Also the graphics routines have been cleaned up even further and a few new functions have been added such as open_screen()/close_screen(), open/close_bitmap(). The BlitShape() routine has been fixed. And the disk routines are now TOTALLY system legal, they used to poke a trackdisk internal, but no more. There's also support for getting millisecond timer interrupt/signals. Much additional work has gone into cleaning anything I could find. But, getting bug reports/suggestions from actual users would be really appreciated. So far, I've been about the only one generating bug reports, and I can be pretty strict on myself. -Richard Conner Conceptually Advanced Technologies 213/452-1732 CIS: 73777,32 BIX: rconner uucp: … ucla-an!stb!richard .
#102563From: Black Belt SystemsMay 5, 1990 12:34 PM
Look who's here! No, I didn't send in my warrenty card. Instead, I called you on the phone, and asked you about a Lattice version. You said it wasn't planned, and I went thru a very laborious process of converting the thing myself. Having done so, I'm pretty well done with it. We have our own requester, 2.0 has _it's_ own requester which the user will be able to setfunction; which means that soon we won't be needing in built-in requester at all. If the user has a requester preference, they can set it globally for all applications, which is mucho cool. The rest of those fixes look like they'll go a long way towards cleaning up the package; good job! For me, though, you can save the upgrade, as I think I've already gotten just about the max out of the package that I could – especially considering that I'd have to convert th whole thing again. Good luck with it – neat idea, _terriffic_ title.
#102671From: Richard ConnerMay 5, 1990 9:28 PM
Welllll, we do hope to get Lattice support in there for 1.1 as well, and if you have any suggestions for future versions, I'd love to hear them… we may not implement them, but then again, we just might. Sorry I couldn't have helped more with the Lattice version, I hope it wasn't too painful… that's why I tried to make everything VERY Lint friendly, which should have reduced most compiler specific things, although not having the Lattice compiler makes being Lattice compatible a little tough. 🙂 We should be getting Lattice within a month, and that will be the first order of business. Good luck with your HAM-E package by the way, I'm dying to see it in the stores!
#102775From: Black Belt SystemsMay 6, 1990 3:06 AM
Me too. :^) You make it Lattice, I'll go after it again, buy it fresh if that's necessary.
#102932From: Allen MittsMay 6, 1990 7:27 PM
I'd be VERY interested in your package if I could use it with Lattice. I'm not proficient enough with C or well versed enough with either compiler to be able to port from Manx to Lattice (at least I haven't been very successful with the things I've tried so far). Maybe you could have some one port the modules over for you so that you could support both platforms.
#103111From: Richard ConnerMay 7, 1990 3:58 AM
Well, I'm sure that when 1.1 is released, I'll definitely have to have Lattice support. Seems everyone wants it. 🙂 Well, the customer is always right. As soon as we can rap up getting The Reaper out the door, I'll put the final touches on 1.1, and see about getting ourselves a Lattice compiler and make sure it's Lattice compatible.
#103208From: Black Belt SystemsMay 7, 1990 3:14 PM
Ok. <deadpan> What's the "reaper"? Ben Amateur Radio Callsign is A A 7 A S
#103959From: Richard ConnerMay 11, 1990 1:21 AM
Hmm. For some reason the powers that be deleted my answer to your question. Not very friendly, no explanation or anything. How rude. Evidently one is not allowed to answer questions on CIS. I suppose I may be forced to go hide back on BIX then. Well, I suppose I'll just have to cut back on CIS then. I think the reply was on long enough for you to see it though (as I recall). -Richard
#103977From: JAMES D. WILLIAMSMay 11, 1990 3:53 AM
Hmm… maybe the message was A) scrolled off… B) forwarded to Ben's Email box… or C) too vulgar for public viewing? –Eet–
#103999From: Betty Clay/SYSOPMay 11, 1990 10:51 AM
Richard, We don't delete answers to questions here. They do scroll off very quickly though. We can have only 999 messages in the forum at any one time. Each time a new message is entered, an older one scrolls off at the other end. It takes about four to six days to scroll that many here in AmigaTech, depending on the number of messages posted each day. Sometime soon – not sure when – this forum will probably be divided into two others, giving us twice as much message room, and a much slower scroll-off rate. Sorry your message scrolled off too quickly, but that is what happened. ……Betty
#104087From: Richard ConnerMay 11, 1990 9:12 PM
I don't see how it scrolled off BEFORE the question did tho? And after 1 day? That was sort of odd. That's the part that threw me, was there were messages from three days prior, and then my answer lasted about 36 hours.
#104107From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMay 11, 1990 11:17 PM
Richard, Was the question that you think was deleted possibly an answer to Ben about what the Reaper is? If so…that reply is still here, it's number 103259. If that's the answer you think was deleted…then I know what happened, the message wasn't deleted…it was simply moved into a thread of it's own so if you went back and looked at the question…you'd see no reply attached to it….but the answer is, and always has been here since you left it, and it's still addressed to Ben. If that's not the message you're speaking of…can you tell me what the message was about…and when it was left. I'll try to figure out what happened to it. I assure you…I did not delete it, and I don't believe any of the other sysops did either. Don
#104132From: Richard ConnerMay 12, 1990 2:58 AM
Never mind… It got forwarded as an e-mail reply since it was fairly specific AND included a price. A general reply I believe got put elsewhere — in "general" I think. 🙂
#103761From: Allen MittsMay 10, 1990 1:23 AM
Richard, Thanks for the response and info. Now… what's 'The Reaper'? Regards, Allen
#103113From: John DraperMay 7, 1990 4:11 AM
Good to see you on CIS, where I can divine your name without recourse to obscure incantations. 🙂
#102552From: Marcus MullinsMay 5, 1990 11:41 AM
I have it, but am just now looking at it. I have had problems compiling a few of the examples, but it might be that I don't have it installed properly yet (I JUST got it). BTW, it assumes you have Aztec-C. Marcus