CompuServe Thread

#3rd quarter results

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#101997From: Tim O'ConnorMay 3, 1990 1:58 AM
And there stock hit a new low today, 6 1/2. Good time to buy shares?! What with all there new plans and such…
#102049From: Thomas HoladayMay 3, 1990 9:15 AM
Think of CBU stock as a very long call option. In other words, something which just might expire worthless, and just might quadruple.
#102186From: Rob SalmonMay 3, 1990 9:40 PM
Some of the price may be a bet on the post-merger value of the DMark. Suppose the price of the OstMark absorbtion is 33% inflation. Might turn CBM's dollar-denominated sales down about 20% and that skinny profit into a big loss. Might knock the stock down to $4 or so. While the central banks will be fiddling with the spot and future currency markets between now and July, I don't see them trying to hold up the value of CBM shares. I would call CBM stock a super downside risk between now and the stabilization of the DMark. Maybe Uncle Irv should ANNOUNCE that Commodore stock is a proxy for the DMark. CBM could then get bought out by the Federal Reserve in the national interest. We could replace GWashington with a Boing Ball on the $1. Shucks, see what a couple of weeks out of Washington does to me?
#102333From: Art SteinmetzMay 4, 1990 11:24 AM
Nah… Any DMark component of CBU would have boosted the stock price. The DM is up over 10% since November. The exchange rate markets aren't making negative bets on the post-merger DM value. In the same vein, CBU took an earnings hit due to exchange rate losses when the US$ was rising relative to the DM since their $ linked manufacturing costs in Taiwan were going up relative to what they were selling the machines for in Germany. The reverse *should* be true now. Of course, they probably wised up (?) and started hedging the currency risk at the DM bottom :-). — Art
#102361From: Rob SalmonMay 4, 1990 2:23 PM
Really? I thought the $ was up since the currency merger was announced (and CBM stock took a new jog down). Now I need to chart the DMark? Groan. Rob.
#102401From: Ethan SolomitaMay 4, 1990 6:33 PM
Actually, although the DMark will probably drop in value, there will be some 30 odd million additional customers to sell to, and for the very reason that the mark will drop in value the east germans will be able to afford the Amiga. — Ethan
#102337From: Ethan SolomitaMay 4, 1990 11:29 AM
Expect the next quarter to be a loss, according to Ethan Assoc. 8^> Really, though, the A3000 won't be launched until July and sales will probably slow down due to the 3000. This leaves the Apr-Jun quarter, which has been a losing quarter for Commodore over the past few years anyway, really bad. IMHOs as appropriate. Wait for the next stock report in 3 months, then buy. — Ethan
#103362From: Tim O'ConnorMay 8, 1990 2:24 AM
Thanks for the advice. I already own! I just thought that with the Amiga trade up offer, now would be a good time to increase. I hear that CBM cleared out a lot (c.7000) machines and built up their depleted inventory of A1000 parts with the trade ins. I figured this quarter should show some improvement. I bought an extra hundred shares anyway. I've got time <:^)
#103514From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMay 8, 1990 11:53 PM
Tim, You hear wrong. CBM didn't take the system unit back, only the keyboard. The dealer's could do with the system unit what the wished, including return them to the person who traded the unit in. Besides which…not real smart to sell used parts as new. Don
#103560From: Tim O'ConnorMay 9, 1990 2:27 AM
Sorry, I heard wrong. Thanks for clarifying that. I still think Commodore's a good buy, especially with the addition of Nolan Bushnell! It looks like CBM's getting ready to crank out some hot programs on it's own. Tim