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#PD vs. commercial sw

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#23143From: SyndesisApr 30, 1992 11:29 PM
I'm sure it will be hard for some people in this forum to imagine, but there are people out there who don't want to hear about public domain software. They only want to hear about commercial software. Why? Support, documentation, updates, etc. In the long run, you get better support, docs, etc. buying commercial software than PD software.
#23147From: Michael GerardMay 1, 1992 12:05 AM
John… I just want to clarify something. When you say: "In the long run, you get better support, docs, etc. buying commercial software than PD software." You are including SHAREWARE products as commercial, no? Michael ….from the north coast (go Cavs!)
#23155From: SyndesisMay 1, 1992 9:36 AM
Are you begging me to make another generalization? 🙂 Shareware ranges from "send $5 to my favorite charity" to "Send me beer" to "Send me $100 and we'll see what happens" to "Send me $40 and I'll send you a printed manual, a fully operation version, and my home phone number." Over the long run, yes – you'd gain more by buying commercial software than sending money to shareware authors. I can say that because only "commercial" means a certain set of characteristics: it's not fool-proof or crook-proof, of course, but what is?
#23160From: Michael GerardMay 1, 1992 11:53 AM
hehe… I wasn't trying to back you in to a corner, I just wanted to know which side of the fence you considered shareware to be on. I'm a bit disappointed in your reply. "…you'd gain more by buying commercial software than sending ??money to shareware authors." That has not been my experience. My wife does the accounting for her businesses with a shsareware product (PC) called Ultra-Check. The registered version includes a very nicely printed manual, and whenever she needs help or has a problem, she calls and speaks to the author… weekends, nites, etc. For years, SID has been one of the most valuable Amiga productcs I own. With few exceptions, there isn't a commercial house out there that has provided the kind of support that Tim Martin has.
#23173From: SyndesisMay 1, 1992 6:14 PM
If you want to talk about the PC market, take every number you can think of and multiply it by ten – at least. I bet there's a number of shareware authors who make a living at it in the PC market. When you do nothing but work on product X and you're self-employed, I'd say you've gone "commercial" in a many respects. For every nice program out there, I can find another that says "send me beer money if you like this." OK, so Eet starts a PD/shareware review magazine. The first issue table of contents says "Review of SID, review of toolBox, review of a substitute file requester." What are you going to cover in the next issue? Second question: you think this magazine is going to be more popular than now-dead .info? Hope you've got a rich uncle.
#23179From: Bill EastburnMay 1, 1992 11:38 PM
There are also people, possibly a majority of Amiga owners, who have no idea there is PD or shareware available for the machine. Since they don't know about it, they probably have no strong feelings about it. To be brutally honest, much of the support, docs, etc., which you keep touting as the reason you're in love with commercial software, is hardly something to brag about. Quite frequently, the documentation is either unusable or virtually non-existant. (A one page, mimeographed sheet on a piece of hardware comes to mind immediately. I've had the same on software, complex software, as well.) If the company doesn't go out of business, you might (MIGHT) get some support from them, but many Amiga vendors fail. Even when they don't, they may not be too responsive. (I could name names, but that would not accomplish a thing.) Admittedly, much PD or shareware suffers the same failings, but at least you don't have a fairly large investment in those offerings. PD and shareware are viable, and in some cases preferable, sources of software for the Amiga owner. When a magazine does not mention them, it is doing no service to the Amiga community.
#23181From: SyndesisMay 2, 1992 12:16 AM
I just got a $800 external hard drive from one of the biggest Mac mail order companies out there. I got one page of docs, double-sided, including documentation for installation of three-four other devices that I didn't order. We can generalize all day long. Do you disagree that commercial software tends to be of better quality than PD software?
#23186From: Bill EastburnMay 2, 1992 8:13 AM
Some commercial software is considerably better than PD. Some runs about the same quality, and some is just plain junk. PD does not necessarily make the program any worse than commercially written software. (I'm lumping shareware with PD simply because I was too lazy to type it in every time.) The thing is that Amiga has a healthy base of good quality PD software, often doing things that commerical software doesn't. The fact that it was not written to make money for some company does not make it bad. Some of the most valuable programs for the Amiga are PD. Ignoring this whole resource will not make it go away. Bill, K3OZM