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#2.04 compatibility

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#56106From: Mary EllisApr 28, 1992 9:07 PM
Can anyone out there tell me if there's any conflict between Workbench 2.04 and the A2286 Bridgeboard? I'd like to upgrade to 2.04, but seem to remember having heard that there are compatibility problems? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. – via Whap!
#56186From: john loweryApr 29, 1992 7:37 PM
Mary Ellis, I understand that you can't install the software needed using 2.04. You would have to revert to 1.3. However, once it is installed, you can go to 2.04 without any problems. It is just the inslulation software that doesn't get along with 2.04. Am I right Michael?????/ JOHN – The Lost Southerner!!
#56192From: RON TROYApr 29, 1992 7:56 PM
Pcprefs won't work with Janus 2.0. Otherwise, things SHOULD work. Ron
#56193From: Marion J DelandApr 29, 1992 7:58 PM
Hi Mary… No real conflict, provided the software is already installed on your hard disk. The installation program won't run, neither will PCPrefs. Some of my readers have successfully installed it by copying files (including unexpected ones like the FORMAT command), but I couldn't get it to work. I had to re-install everything. Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter for the Bridgeboard, etc.
#56267From: Gayle Lee FairlessApr 30, 1992 11:24 PM
Mary, The present version of PCPrefs for the bridgeboards (BB's) does not work under 2.04. You should either get the bootup board that allows the machine to boot from either 1.3 or 2.04, or you should set all the preferences you need before switching and and back up your settings. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#56386From: Mary EllisMay 2, 1992 9:56 PM
As I understand the situation, it appears that if I already have the bridgeboard (hardware and software) installed, I should have no problems running 2.04. However, one comment was made that Janus 2.0 won't work under 2.04. Does that mean that I would –have– to get the bootup board, and boot under 1.3 when I want to use the BB? I'm kind of lost here – no one else I know has the BB, and my sources of information are limited to this SIG. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks a lot. – Mary, from Hampton (near Saint John), New Brunswick, Canada – via Whap!
#56392From: Don Curtis/SYSOPMay 2, 1992 11:57 PM
Mary, The BridgeBoard works under 2.04, there are a few problems with the shared disk (JLink) and trying to run PCPrefs under 2.04 will cause your machine to GURU. However, other than those two relatively minor problems…it works fine. I'm using an A2088 BB and 2.04 with no problems at all since I don't use JLink. Don
#56412From: Michael GerardMay 3, 1992 8:54 AM
While it is still vapor… The Ambassador from Consultron reportedly will negate the need for JLink, and make file access on any connected device much faster. (according to Leonard Ploma/Consultron). This should make life a whole bunch easier for BB users. Michael ….from the north coast (go Cavs!)
#56451From: Marion J DelandMay 3, 1992 10:18 PM
Mary… As others have said, Janus 2.0 works under 2.04, with the exception of the installation program, PCPrefs and creating JLINK files. If you want to get more info on the Bridgeboard, drop me your postal address by E-Mail and I'll send you a sample issue of CROSSINGS plus subscription info. Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter for the Bridgeboard, etc.
#56475From: Paul ToalMay 4, 1992 5:07 AM
Marion, I have the BB working with 2.04 except for one frustrating problem. I have a 3.5 inch floppy hooked up to the back of the BB, that used to work. The added line in config.sys is DrivParm =/D:01 /F:2 /B:02 /S:09 /T:80 When accesing it, I get "Reading disk failure". The only thing I changed near the same time was switch to MSDOS 4.01? Could there be a "drivparm" change? I don't even get the disk light to come on for a second. I also don't have an A: drive hooked up. Could you suggest something for me to try. I now have no disk drives except for C: as a FakeDrive 🙁 Any help would be most appreciated, –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#56609From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 6, 1992 12:49 AM
Paul, I have the following line for DRIVPARM in my config.sys file under DRDOS 6.0. I checked the manuals for both MSDOS 3.3 (the one that came with the BB) and DRDOS 6.0. DRIVPARM /D:1 /C /F:2 /H:2 /S:9 /T:80 There was no /B switch in either manual. I suggest that /H:2 is probably the correct choice. I put the /C switch in because 3.5 inch drives are typically able to detect a change. I have an AIR external 3.5 inch drive which appears as either B: drive hooked to my XT bridgeboard or as DF2: hooked to the Amiga side upon powerup. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#56774From: Paul ToalMay 8, 1992 4:28 AM
Thanks for the help Gayle, I'll give a try. –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#56777From: Paul ToalMay 8, 1992 4:28 AM
Gayle, Look in the BridgeBoard manual from Commodore. I copied the DRIVPARM verbatim. The manual is wrong. I hate Commodore. You fixed it. Thanks. –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#56840From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 9, 1992 1:32 AM
Paul, Yes, right there on page 96 in Chapter 6. I gues the 'B' stands for Beta! :-> Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#56849From: Paul ToalMay 9, 1992 4:41 AM
I really thought that would fix my problem. What prevents a disk drive from getting read if it works fine? Do I have to have an A: drive hooked up first? It used to work fine 🙁 –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#57026From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 12, 1992 2:35 AM
Paul, In my setup things are fairly standard and stock stuff. The original 360K drive that came with my XT BB is in my Amiga 2000HD's lower bay. An AST SixPakPlus and a 2 Meg LIM 4.0 RAM board from Elek in Texas are in my PC slots. The only software difference is an upgrade to DRDOS 6.0. Anyway, my A: drive is always hooked up. The B: drive is sometimes on the XT BB and sometimes on the Amiga side since it is an external 3.5 inch AIR drive. It seems to work better as DF2:. You need to give a more exact description of your problem before I can give you a useful guess. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#57153From: Paul ToalMay 13, 1992 8:44 PM
I have what normally is df2: in my 2500 hooked up to the back of the XTBB. The DRIVPARM is in config.sys, but when I try to read drive b: I get a drive error as if it can't find it. The drive lite never comes on. I'm using MS-DOS 4.01. Wht won't DOS try and read the disk or find the drive? Any help is most appreciated, as I'm dead in the water without it. –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#57687From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 21, 1992 12:10 AM
Paul, Well, you could upgrade to either MSDOS 5.0 or DRDOS 6.0! Can you use the B: drive under MSDOS 3.3? I ask this to eliminate or to isolate a possible hardware problem. Since you did not say that DF2: malfunctioned, I assume that the drive is probably OK. Other than mentioning obvious possibilities, it is somewhat hard to troubleshoot long distance. You may have to do other things to determine whether you have a broken wire or a hardware problem. Have you tried reseating the bridgeboard? If you're handy with tools, did you try reseating the chips? You don't have to remove the chips (ONLY the ones that HAVE sockets) from their sockets, just use a screwdriver after grounding yourself appropriately to loosen a chip and push it back in. You don't completely remove a chip to avoid the inadvertent bending of a leg. Keep us updated! <^_^> Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#56737From: Marion J DelandMay 7, 1992 7:49 PM
Paul.. The XT expects to find an A drive and hangs up waiting for you to acknowledge it. Usually it asks you to press F1, but that may be different in DOS 4.01–I haven't checked it out. You might try pressing F1 and see what happens! I'll do a little reading on DRIVPARM and see if I can find anything else. Marion CROSSINGS Newsletter for the Bridgeboard, etc.
#56775From: Paul ToalMay 8, 1992 4:28 AM
That part works OK. I get the F1 requester and continue on the search path till it gets to C:, but never finds B: or ignores dir b:. –Paul Whappin' from the Wine Country
#56948From: Mary EllisMay 10, 1992 6:57 PM
Thanks, Marion – I'll do that. This whole BB thing is rather complex for me, considering that I have no local resources. Thanks loads for your help. – via Whap!
#56608From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 6, 1992 12:49 AM
Mary, I run my A2088 XT bridgeboard under 2.04. The installation software to set up the XT BB won't run under 2.04. However, if you have already installed your XT BB, then you can run it. You just can't change it once you install 2.04. Now I've saved the settings from the PC Window without crashing. But PCPrefs does crash under 2.04. Consequently, just save the setup files in the PC directory so that you can restore them. Now I haven't had to restore mine so you just back them up along with your other files. You DO backup your files, don't you! 🙂 The new Janus software that is supposed to come out RSN would, of course, run under 2.04. I haven't seen it, and the licensed developers simply grin and disappear like the Cheshire cat in Wonderland. Consequently, we still wonder when C= will finally release the Janus updates. I didn't get the multiboot board because I decided to just take the plunge and update one way without going back. Eventually, 2.04 will be updated, and then what? Get yet another board? Nah, I would rather just update. Most of the serious software will be updated, too, or can be abandoned. And I'm not a serious gamer. Too much fun talking to real people here! 🙂 Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!
#56947From: Mary EllisMay 10, 1992 6:57 PM
Yes, I DO back up my files – more specifically, my hard disk. I guess I'll take the plunge. My BB is an AT, but I don't suppose that'll make much difference as far as any of the information I'm getting from all you wonderful people. Thanks loads for the info. – via Whap!
#57032From: Gayle Lee FairlessMay 12, 1992 2:37 AM
Mary, You're welcome! <^_^> Let us know that it works! Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless 'Perfessor Fearless' from the Rocket City! – via Whap!