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#QB 5.0 more bugs?

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#39207From: May 11, 1992 11:53 PM
? I just got QB 5.0 and patched it to 5.1. I have run into a couple of problems. (not mentioned so far). My system is A3000 with 2 drives and an Archive Python (DAT) 1) No matter what I set the buffer options memory type to be QB always uses GRAPHICS RAM (I can see the ram use from WB). 2) I have tried the Multiple backup macro and no the QB always puts up the backup target requestor for each volume. I have manually set the requestor to OFF and also your macro seems to do a DisplayOptionsOff. If I do the backup by hand the system will NOT display the requestor. 3) This is not really a problem, but a request. There should be a function to retrieve the backup set names from a tape volume so we don't have to write down each backup we have made to a tape (this is especially a pain with a 2 Gig tape and 100 or so backup sets to the single tape) Hope you can help me out… Jeff
#39217From: New Horizons SoftwareMay 12, 1992 8:52 AM
Jeff, 1) This is a Commodore problem. To ensure that we are getting memory that we can DMA to and from, we have to set the 24BITDMA flag when asking for memory from the system. On A2000's and A500's with normal autoconfig memory, then it just allocate whatever type of memory is available since it is all 24BITDMA-able. On the A3000, however, the 24BITDMA flag causes chip memory to be chosen for buffers if you only have 32 bit memory installed. But, on the A3000, the scsi.device can DMA anywhere in the system, but from a progamming standpoint, there is no way to know this. The reason is that if you have an A2000 with an accelerator that puts its 32 bit memory outside the normal autoconfig space, then scsi controllers cannot DMA in that 32 bit RAM area. This is a real problem on the Amiga and needs to be addressed by Commodore. They have been informed about this and I hope they will do something about it. What we need is a way to ask each scsi.device where it can DMA since it should know. 2) The macro has worked for me. It may have broken in 5.0.1, but I don't see how. I'll look into it. 3) You can space to each backup on a tape, then read the catalog and choose GetSessionInfo from the Utilities menu. In a later version, this process wil probably be automated through a macro. Mark Thomas Central Coast Software A division of New Horizons Software, Inc.
#39242From: RON TROYMay 12, 1992 11:28 PM
Mark, having followed this thread I'm getting more and more worried about using 5, even patched, once I eventually receive it. I've gotten the impression that it doesn't properly handle restores of the older but recent versions, etc. Is there any list of known 5.01 problems that you can post? Ron
#39257From: New Horizons SoftwareMay 13, 1992 8:28 AM
Ron, What problems are you referring to when you say that Quarterback 5.0 does not restore QB 4.0 backup set? I looked back at this thread an didn't see any mention of problems pertaining to restoring old backup set and I don't know of a problem with this. Mark Thomas Central Coast Software A division New Horizons Software, Inc.
#39296From: RON TROYMay 13, 1992 8:24 PM
One of the messages suggested a problem; perhaps on the user forum. Personally I hope there aren't any. I'm also worried about using compression. I backup to floppy but I hear that your odds of restoring from a compressed backup set aren't good, that the 'index' to the backup set doesn't know what floppy a file is on if you use compression. Note that PC oriented products have been using compression for years, so it would be nice to know that I could safely use the new compression on QB. Ron
#39327From: New Horizons SoftwareMay 14, 1992 11:31 AM
Ron, Currently we do have to scan through the whole backup when restoring compressed files. Other than this inconvenience, there are no problems. Mark Thomas Central Coast Software A division of New Horizons Software, Inc.
#39385From: RON TROYMay 15, 1992 7:10 AM
Mark, while forgetting the other apparent non-issues, this one issue is enough to make compression very dangerous, IMHO. If there is the slightest problem with a single file, the whole backup could be rendered unusable, if you never reach the file you wanted. I would have thought that the last disc in the backup set would have had an index on it telling the program where to find a given file. Note that products like Central Point Backup not only do things like that, they also put that index on the hard drive itself in a file. That way, if you're only restoring one file, it quickly tells you what floppy to put in, and the restore is finished very, very quickly. I hope that New Horizons considers this problem serious enough to do another patch quickly. As badly as I need to reduce the size of my backup sets, I'm afraid to use this long overdue feature. I'm really surprised that this could happen. Ron
#39390From: New Horizons SoftwareMay 15, 1992 10:05 AM
Ron, Thanks for the concern. I'm sure that something will be done about the compression restore scheme. Mark Thomas Central Coast Software A division of New Horizons Software, Inc.
#39419From: RON TROYMay 15, 1992 8:51 PM
I got my copy today; given that I'm moving soon, I'll be doing full backups; I hope that the compression system is safe. Ron
#39482From: May 17, 1992 12:03 PM
Excuse me, but scanning through 50+ disks to recover one file from the last disk in the set, seems a major problem to me ! When will this be changed ? – J0RGEN …..by Whap! from DENMARK
#39537From: New Horizons SoftwareMay 18, 1992 11:17 AM
J0RGEN, You do understand that this only occurs when using compression, right? We're looking into the problem. Mark Thomas Central Coast Software A division of New Horizons Software, Inc.