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#AMAX Amigas & Macs

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#57328From: Jim OgilvieMay 15, 1992 6:25 PM
Your message is a bit confusing. You seem to hip-hop from some very general remarks about how you feel the Amiga has failed you, but you never really center on the reasons why. I'm sure no one is really offended by your message, so don't worry about that. You're being honest and straightforward about how you feel the situation is, and that's quite ok. My initial gut reaction to your message is to reply with the same formula that the PC world lives on. It seems that in the PC world, if you don't have a 386 or 386SX machine these days, no one will talk to you when you complain. Most PC users take it for granted that if they want to use the latest version of Windows, or play the best and latest games, or use the latest productivity software effectively, they NEED a screaming fast machine. It would likely be naive for us to think that the Amiga environment is totally immune to this reality. If you bought an Amiga 4-5 years ago, unless you have been upgrading it steadily with a true 32bit type accelerator, a fast hard drive, etc etc…then you can't really understand what a good Amiga operating environment is TODAY. The 3000, with 2.04, it's built in de-interlacer, fast hard disk and lots of memory, is a serious turnabout to the 'standard' platform of five years ago (A1000 with two floppy drives). As such, simply adding a CLtd hard disk and accelerating your Amiga to 14Mhz can't really give you an idea of what you can really do with your Amiga TODAY. There's no question that the Amax will perform better on a 3000 than on a 1000. I'm sure your kids like to use your Macs better at your office than an Amax'ed 1000, simply because of the screen flicker. It makes a big difference. So when you say that running the 3000 and Amax would be the ticket for sure, you're pretty much on the mark, methinks.
#57372From: WARD E. JOHNSONMay 16, 1992 6:30 AM
You are right, I have not centered on the specific reason(s) why it has failed me. I felt I had to get it off of my chest, and now, out of my house. Specifically, the machine has become a non-producing asset. I needed productivity in a very short amount of time and least $$$ invested, which is critical to any business. Which to me meant doing it with the least amount of time babysitting the system, searching for hardware/software, system maintenance, compatibility with output devices and easy/low $$$ expand/upgrade. I looked at many of the options available to me, doing good time/$$$ analysis, availability (a big issue here) and most important-what the system was going to be used for. In the end, it was the Mac I landed on. This was also based on personal experience with a variety of systems. Believing I already had a machine capable of handling the task, I purchased the AMAX. Blow #1 came quickly when I found out the HD I had was not supported (AMAX) and the company no longer existed (CLtd). THAT is when the T/$ hit me hardest. By the time I could have purchased a new drive/card-cage, more memory (4megs min.), installed it all and got it up and running, along with purchasing appropriate software, it was time to buy the real thing…A Mac Classic 40/4. One last consideration is that the Amiga is still not considered a business oriented machine, even today. I still get people telling me that I "must be" an artist if that is the kind of machine I have. Believe me, it was and still is a great disappointment to get such negative responses from the clients I was after or have. They know about the machine, sort of, but did not trust that I or the machine were up to the task. I would still integrate the machine into my business if there were a low$$$/ NON-time consuming way to do it. Any suggestions are welcomed.
#57385From: Jim OgilvieMay 16, 1992 11:42 AM
Sorry, but I can offer no solution that costs low dollars and no time. That's not a realistic goal.
#57448From: Paul ToalMay 17, 1992 6:48 AM
The Amiga isn't meant to be a buisiness oriented machine. It is geared towards creative peolple with real problems to solve. If you really want to do some stale spreadsheet stuff and Lotus hopping, there are fine products available to do that on the Amiga, but they are only there as a courtesy to those who must convince their boss that it really can do other things besides "artist stuff". Any old slab of silicon will crunch numbers and let a secretary fill in the pretty boxes so the boss can see the pretty lines go up and down. The Amiga caters to those that need to reach for new answers before they are asked, and to push creativity to levels not attainable on other platforms. Don't buy a Rolls Royce just to fill a parking space. The tasks you need done are easily performed by run of the mill computers, you don't really need an Amiga, buts its nice to see you at least tried, although with outdated hardware and software.