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#GIF viewers?

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#29548From: Bill ReevesApr 27, 1993 4:40 PM
Is there such a thing as a reasonably fast and accurate GIF (all ages) viewer for Amigas? Converting them to IFF is really not an acceptable alternative for each GIF I want to see. I have ADPro and am not very impressed with the quality of its conversions. Should I stick to my PC? sign me "a lot disappointed lately with Amigas". Bill Reeves
#29563From: Black Belt SystemsApr 27, 1993 10:30 PM
Try Imagemaster – it's alot better at creating IFF/Amiga mode images than AdPro is. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#29582From: Bill ReevesApr 28, 1993 2:29 PM
Ben, I appreciate your unbiased <g> testimonial for IM's ability in creating IFF/Amiga mode images. However, what I would really like is something quick, easy and reasonably accurate to view GIF images without needing to convert them. Then, if I like the GIF, I can take the time to convert it. Bill
#29592From: Marlene Zenker/SYSOPApr 28, 1993 8:50 PM
If that's what you want to do, take a look at ViewTek. It can be used to view your GIF files. Steve
#29599From: Black Belt SystemsApr 28, 1993 11:23 PM
Actually, I wasn't really talking about output conversions – it is a requirement to "convert" GIF's for normal Amiga display; and that's what I was referring to. Imagemaster does that conversion on load; you don't have to do anything other than pick the Amiga display mode you prefer to view them in. And as you surmise, if you like what you see, you can render for output. Sorry if I confused you. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#29586From: Brian CowanApr 28, 1993 6:30 PM
I dunno, I get pretty nice 12 color IFF's from 256-color GIFs. Most of the time, that is. It just has to be a high quality image. And I may need to tweek the balancing a little. If I knew anyone using IM, I'd look at it. Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
#29600From: Black Belt SystemsApr 28, 1993 11:23 PM
12 color? You mean, 12-bit, I presume. If you've got a few minutes for a download, you might want to take a look at the sample image(s?… I forget – at least one) in DL6 of AmigaVendor. That's a good way to see what Imagemaster can do with a full color image. There are some 16 color shots in there I think you'll be pretty satisfied with. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#29602From: Michael GerardApr 29, 1993 5:24 AM
Ben, Have you folks considered releasing a demo version that allows loading of images with saves and manipualtions disabled?
#29626From: Black Belt SystemsApr 30, 1993 12:09 AM
Yes, we have. Here are the two problems that stop us: Imagemaster is updated very, very often. So – if we up a demo version, we'll probably get stuck uploading it constantly; that's costly in time and maintainance. The other is that Imagemaster's main display screen can be saved; you get a renderer for free too easily. Reminds of when people where using AdPro to convert the HAM-E screen of Image Professional to a 24-bit file in AdPro using the HAM-E support + screen grabbing – people will go to any length to steal, unfortunately. Before anyone gets hot, I am NOT pointing any fingers at ASDG; only certain end-user level thieves. –Ben …via AutoPilot
#29686From: Brian CowanMay 1, 1993 11:41 AM
No, I meant 12-color. If you want to use a picture as a backdrop on a 16-color screen, and want to be able to tweek your workbench palette without lousing up the picture, you can only use colors 4-15 (WB 2.04). I've got some scenic shots that survived the transition fairly well. Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
#29690From: Black Belt SystemsMay 1, 1993 1:46 PM
Gads… I've forgotten the original question – I understand the issue you're looking at, the "other" colors from teh WB set; what was it we were talking about with regard to them? –Ben …via AutoPilot
#29698From: Brian CowanMay 1, 1993 10:06 PM
I dunno… Brian — Cruising on AutoPilot…..
#29595From: John GagerApr 28, 1993 8:57 PM
Bill: If I remember right, you just purchased an Amiga 1200, correct? If so, probably the best .GIF/.JPG viewer for you would be ViewTek, available here in one of the AmigaArts libraries. It does a good job of viewing GIFS, JPEG's, and IFF pics & animations and is very fast on my 4000, so it should probably do well on a 1200. If you don't have a 1200 yet, then ViewTek will still work, it just won't do as well viewing the GIFS/JPEGS in regular Ham mode. ADPro does a fairly decent job of converting GIF's to IFF so maybe you are not doing something to make the renderings look decent. // \X/ John – K7KB (Being artistic via AutoPilot)
#29754From: Dave ParkMay 4, 1993 5:23 PM
The easiest way to view GIFs (If you have an AGA machine) is to get the GIF data-type for MultiView. It is here as GIFDT.LZH or GIFDT.LHA. Then just decompress it and copy the two files (the doc tells you where) to you system. Then run MultiView, select your GIF file, and it is displayed. Easy!
#29784From: Mr. ChalleronMay 5, 1993 7:00 PM
Maybe for you, but the Gif.datatype package doesn't work on my 4000.
#29806From: Steve AhlstromMay 6, 1993 12:56 PM
The GIF.datatype works fine on my 4000. I personally use ViewTek to display GIFs rather than MultiView, but the GIF.datatype does work.
#29866From: Mr. ChalleronMay 8, 1993 2:04 PM
Okay, I'll ask another stupid question: Could the diagonal-tearing I get be caused by the fact that I run (pretty exclusively) in Double-NTSC mode? (The few owners of A4000s I know usually run Productivity Mode.)
#29867From: Steve AhlstromMay 8, 1993 3:18 PM
Not too likely as I run (pretty exclusively) in DBLNTSC.
#29811From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPMay 6, 1993 1:09 PM
It doesn't? That's odd… it works just fine on my 4000. I use it quite often, actually.
#29794From: John GagerMay 5, 1993 10:28 PM
I think you left this to the wrong person Dave. But ViewTek is the best way to view .GIF's, IMHO. Works very well with my 4000, and the .GIF datatype method is slower.
#29892From: Dave ParkMay 9, 1993 9:14 PM
>> … ViewTek is the best way to view GIF's, IMHO. Works very well with my >> 4000, and the .GIF datatype method is slower. I've displayed GIFs using both ViewTek and MultiView. I did not notice a speed difference, neither seemed slow, but I wasn't timing them. My pref- erence is to go with the built-in MultiView. I sure don't have anything bad to say about ViewTek, but MultiView is a 'standard' option. Does ViewTek have more capabilities than MultiView?
#29899From: John GagerMay 9, 1993 11:45 PM
Along with ViewTek's capability to display GIF's, it will also display 24-bit JPEG files directly. And then there is the Anim-5 & Anim-7 support, plus the capability to do a screen grab. Don't get me wrong, I think datatypes are a great addition to the Amiga OS, and MultiView does a pretty good job with most files. But ViewTek is what I prefer for viewing most files and I'm sure others have their own preference.
#29612From: Steve SetzerApr 29, 1993 5:54 PM
Bill, Try Hamlab. I believe there is a demo in the library here that will view but not save. While it does not have all the bells and whistles of AdPro/IM/ImageFX it is a h@LL of a lot faster. …Steve ====>>> Motorola 68030 Inside <<<====