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#3DS and Dos6 compression

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#42767From: Bailey BrownMay 5, 1993 7:59 AM
I will take your advice and use Stacker. Also, I was talking to a guy today who had just switched from Stacker to Doubledisk (Dos6). He says that he noticed a significant performance degredation with DD, and he thinks it's because the Dos6 version of Smardrive, when used in conjunction with DD, keeps compressed data in the disk cache. What a stupid thing to do! I guess Microsoft thinks we all have really slow hard disks and really small memories, and really fast cpus.
#42846From: Gus GrubbaMay 5, 1993 4:31 PM
>> I guess Microsoft thinks we all have really slow hard disks and really small >> memories, and really fast cpus. Ain't that the truth? If you look at the computers being sold today, they all have el cheapo HD and little memory. That's how they get it to be "competitive". People don't know and buy those things. They later spend a lot more "upgrading" it. As to the guy you were talking to, make sure he is not cacheing the compressed drive. For instance, if he's got a portion of drive C: compressed and the compressed drive is drive D:, run Smartdrive on C: only. Not on D:. If you have the patience, plan ahead the files you place in each drive. Executables you use most often are better of in the uncompressed drive.
#43004From: Bailey BrownMay 6, 1993 7:33 PM
Gus, I don't see why not caching the compressed drive would help. The problem with doubledisk vs stacker is that there is no cache of uncompressed data for you to go to an pssible be able to read data a second time without having to uncompress it again. Turning off cacheing on the compressed drive could only make accessing the compressed drive slower. I think stacker handles this caching better by making the compression invisible to the cache program so it will keep uncompressed data ready to go in the cache. BTW, I checked smartdrv and it is caching a,b, and d, but not c (my compressed drive). I did not give it any drive parameters, so it did this on its own. It must be detecting something funny about c. Anyway, If I run my program that I wrote to tell me data transfer rate when reading a file, I get 1.1 MB/sec reading it the first time on the stacker drive, 1.6 MB/sec the first time on the non-stacker drive, and about 5MB/sec the second time (from the cache) on both drives, so I guess smartdrive is caching the data for the compressed drive, but unlike in doubledisk and dos6 smartdrive, it is caching the data after it is uncompressed. Bailey
#43025From: Gus GrubbaMay 7, 1993 1:45 AM
As I said, this is all "theory" as I have never installed double disk in any of my computers. I can't say much about it. By the way, take a look at todays Info World you have a chance. Microsoft is getting deeper and deeper in the %$@%$ with this double disk thing. A _ton_ of people are complaining about corrupt data. The statistics are ridiculous. PC Tools 7.0 had that big bashing because of data corruption with less than 1% reported cases. In Microsoft's case it's up in the teens!
#43044From: David RhotenMay 7, 1993 10:33 AM
Because the "compressed drive" is really a file on an uncompressed drive, caching the uncompressed drive automatically caches the compressed drive. The rain in Spain, falls mainly on the plain. Moses supposes his toeses are roses, but Moses supposes erroneously. Moses, he knowes, his toeses aren't roses, as Moses supposes his toeses to be. Got any more tongue-twister/speech-enhancers?<g> Dave
#43090From: David TaffetMay 7, 1993 5:22 PM
How about: The sixth sheik's sixth sheep is sick. OR Sasha's sickly sister's sixty shift sifters. Hmm? DT
#43099From: Colin IrwinMay 7, 1993 7:38 PM
The Leith Police dismisseth us. Red Lorry Yellow Lorry (repeat six times – quickly) :-%
#43295From: Bailey BrownMay 10, 1993 10:11 PM
toy boat toy boat toy boat toy boat toy boat toy boat toy boat…, etc. Bailey
#43339From: David TaffetMay 11, 1993 9:18 AM
Red lorry yellow lorry I can actually say fairly quickly, but that other one! Oy! I can't even say it slow!
#43169From: david W. mennenohMay 9, 1993 9:01 AM
PMJI, I work for a large computer dealer and although we only sell Compaq, IBM and apple they to have come out with chaper and chaper models to compete with the Dells and Gateways of the world. But I would have to disagree with the "el cheapo HD's and no mem" 90% of the computers we sell come with 8Mb and conner HD's (compaq). Personally I think IBM sucks – they just can't seem to make a quality machine. Having worked on them for the past 2 years I know what they are like inside – and it isn't worth buying. Although 8Mb is not an awesome amount is very sufficient for an average home or business running Windows and some other software. It also seems to me that places like Dell and Gateway 2000 are trying to sell computers equipped with at least 8Mb and 200Mb Hd's. Anyway – just my 2 cents.