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#Lightwave 3D? S.O.S

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#57367From: John CarMay 21, 1993 8:33 AM
I was really impresed with Lightwave3D at a computer trade show I attended in Charlotte N.C this week and would like to know what program does one use to produce Wire frame objects to use with lightwave for animations? Can you scan an object and then turn it into a 3D object? John Car
#57391From: Erik FlomMay 21, 1993 2:06 PM
Most models can be created using the Modeler that comes with LightWave 3-D. There are also a number of useful programs that will convert existing 3-D objects into LightWave format, and LW will also load a number of formats including those from popular IBM CAD programs. You can also buy hardware and/or software that will digitize 3-D objects automatically. Finally, there are companies (like mine :^) that supply custom made 3-D objects and scenes. My recommendation is that you purchase a few issues of Video Toaster User or Desktop Video World. They'll give you alot of information, and also have ads for the programs you want. Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57466From: John CarMay 22, 1993 1:40 PM
Erik I a have purchased some issues of Video desktop world. Were can I get a issues of Toaster User ? I am purchasing a mac base video Imaging editing workstation do you know of any great software products that will let me accomplish on the Mac what can be done with Lightwave 3D? John Car
#57472From: Jim PlantMay 22, 1993 3:13 PM
Video Toaster User can be purchased at most Amiga/Toaster retail stores, as well as Software Etc., CompUSA, TowerBooks, some Waldenbooks and B.Dalton Stores (not too many yet), and many independent book stores. VTU is also available by subscription ($36/12 issues), call 1-800-322-2843 if you want to use your credit card to subscribe. We are also in the planning stages of publishing an All-LightWave newsletter. It will be edited by John Gross. I'll post more details on this publication at a later date. Jim Plant-Publisher, Video Toaster User
#57483From: Erik FlomMay 22, 1993 11:37 PM
Hey, thanks! Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom P.S. Put ME on your mailing list for the LW newsletter. (I already subscribe to VTU, and you printed some of my LW images in the Feb/Mar isuue. Keep up the good work!)
#57619From: Jim PlantMay 24, 1993 11:27 PM
We'll be sending a free evaluation copy of the first LightWave Letter to all subscibers of Video Toaster User. Look for it in the latter half of June. Jim Plant
#57628From: Erik FlomMay 25, 1993 1:28 AM
I'll be waiting for the LightWave Letter with bated breath. :^) What I've seen of LW 3.0 is pretty cool! Keep up the good work! & Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57670From: Peter GreciMay 25, 1993 7:10 PM
Have you gotten yer new VTU yet? I got mine today, the Cover Story is ….. Toaster 4000 of course. Haven't read it yet tho as I'm VERY Backed up on Magazines at the moment. I haven't even finished reading about Jurassic Park yet in the last issue of Fangoria. BTW Sega is working on a Jurassic Park Game for their CDROM machine, all Graphics are being done with SGI's (Boo hiss get Some Amiga's/Toaster's at Segawood)
#57686From: Erik FlomMay 25, 1993 10:53 PM
Nope, you East Coasters (that's something you put your beer on right? :^) seem to get the publications before those of us on the West Coast. I'll be looking forward to it! Thanks for the teaser! Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57734From: Peter GreciMay 26, 1993 9:35 PM
Thats pretty Bizarre since VTU is published on the West Coast isn't it?
#57769From: Erik FlomMay 27, 1993 2:26 PM
Published, NOT printed. I've heard it's printed somewhere back east. Erik
#57890From: Jim PlantMay 29, 1993 9:06 PM
Video Toaster User is published in Cupertino, CA (Bay Area), printed and mailed from Louisville, KY. JP
#57526From: John CarMay 23, 1993 8:31 PM
Thanks Jim for the information I was just at Walden's and did not see your Magazine but I will ask the clerk next time thanks again Jim. John car
#57621From: Jim PlantMay 24, 1993 11:31 PM
We're not in many Waldenbooks stores yet. That will change dramatically with the August/September issue when we will be positioned in a Point-of-Sale magazine rack in over 1000 Waldenbooks locations. Until then, you're best bet is Software Etc., Comp USA, and Amiga/Toaster dealers. Please let me know where you find a copy. Jim Plant
#57530From: Paul ToalMay 23, 1993 8:55 PM
Jim- As you look into your crystal ball, what do you see changing in VTU to make it bigger and better? Would you consider a companion disk as an addition? One of your old original subscribers, –Paul < Motorola Inside >
#57609From: Jim PlantMay 24, 1993 8:21 PM
Publishing in a quickly evolving market just about guarantees an ever-evolving magazine. I have some definite ideas about how things are going to go, but I want to hold off on talking about them until I have a chance to bring our new editor, Phil Kurz , into the loop. He starts June 1 and you can expect some news on the editorial front soon after that. Stay tuned. Jim Plant
#57671From: Peter GreciMay 25, 1993 7:10 PM
Phil Kurz, Why does that name sound Familiar? Is he Previously of Videomaker?
#57690From: John GrossMay 25, 1993 11:25 PM
No, He used to be editor of AV Video. JG
#57735From: Peter GreciMay 26, 1993 9:35 PM
I knew Phil Kurz name sounded familiar I just couldn't place it. Thanx John.
#57729From: Jim PlantMay 26, 1993 7:51 PM
Phil Kurz was the editor of A/V Video.I think the last issue he worked on was the May 1993. He's very sharp and I'm\ really looking forward to working with him. Jim Plant
#57736From: Peter GreciMay 26, 1993 9:35 PM
I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing VTU with Phil Kurz aboard too. GREAT. I love AV/Video and VTU.
#57770From: Erik FlomMay 27, 1993 2:26 PM
I can't say I know much about the guy, but I DO admire his decison to put his family first, and not move them all to New York. I'd just read his farewell editorial in AV/Video, and thought that it was nice he was so concenred for his daughters. I'm glad to hear he'll be joining your team, as I have usually found the AV/Video coverage of the Amiga to be remarkably strong – even in the P.T. (Pre-Toaster) era. (Here's hoping he wasn't the only supporter of the Amiga left on their staff!) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57586From: Peter GreciMay 24, 1993 4:53 PM
Howdy Jim. VTU is AWESOME, Shame ya had to sell off AVid, it's become TRASH now that the new owners took over. This is of course merely an OPINION. The articles in VTU are useful even for Non Toaster owners like me.
#57610From: Jim PlantMay 24, 1993 8:24 PM
Thanks for the kind words on VTU. We're working to continue to improve it on a regular basis. I hope you'll have some patience while the AVG guys get their feet on the ground. It does take time and they have some good plans that aren't reflected in their existing product. Remember those original issues of Avid! JP
#57672From: Peter GreciMay 25, 1993 7:10 PM
Yup, I remember the old issue's of Avid, thats why I haven't cancelled my Subscription to AVG yet. But I'm giving them 2 more issues and if I don't see a marked improvement I cancel. Great News on you getting into Walden Books. Should have even more Folks learning about the Amiga and Toaster's thru the Casual "Hey this looks like a neat Rag" type purchases.
#57482From: Erik FlomMay 22, 1993 11:37 PM
Well, you can do some really cool 3-D stuff on the Mac, but it always seems to choke on the rendering speed. I haven't seen anything comparable to LightWave on the Mac, though there is software on the Mac that does things just not possible in LightWave (like RenderMan output, etc.) I don't know of exactly where to look for issues of VTU (Video Toaster User), but I'll give you their 800 number for subscription. they might be able to send out a few issues or something. Their number is: 1-800-322-AVID (2843) Good Luck & Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57528From: John CarMay 23, 1993 8:31 PM
Erik I wonder why the Mac can not render images as fast as the Video Toaster? When you create 3D objects in Lightwave what type of scanner do you use? John Car
#57562From: Erik FlomMay 24, 1993 1:42 AM
I don't know why the Mac software is generally slower when rendering. Most of my info is based on results of other friends, and not first hand experience. (I know my Dad [he's got a Mac] is always turning up reflection to the max, and that makes his stuff take forever, though it does look kinda cool.) As far as modeling is concerned, it is best likened to Computer Aided Drafting, where the object is built up in three dimesniosn using a number of 2-dimensional views of the object on the computer screen. While there ARE a number of techniques currently used to digitize/scan 3-D models, their input techniques vary greatly. Some devices scan the object and create a 3-D model from a number of views of the image, while the more common forms use a modified 'drawing tablet' technique, where a pen is used to trace the contours of the object in 3-D, and a complex array of acoustic, magnetic, or RF sensors determine the position of the pen at each control point as it is entered into the 3-D database. What type do I use? A combination of programs that allow me turn turn a 2-D scanned image/FAX into a 3-D object. Organic objects, like the humpback whale I just finished, are created by brute force. (Lotsa time spent switching between views of the object and trying to get the points in the right place. :^) Keep On Toastin' Erik Flom
#57587From: Peter GreciMay 24, 1993 4:54 PM
Erik, Netrenderman on the Mac is supposed to have ALOT OF SPEED but then again it uses a NETWORK of MAC's
#57623From: Erik FlomMay 25, 1993 12:27 AM
The point is that it can fairly TRANSPARENTLY use a network of Macs to render on. Something not immediately possible with the off-the-shelf LW package.
#57673From: Peter GreciMay 25, 1993 7:10 PM
Well hopefully Alan Hasting's will add Network abilities to LW3D sometime soon. Espescially now that it's become the Darling of HollyWEIRD. Someday my Toaster will come, then I'll…….. The Preceding passage has been censored to avoid Breaking FCC Regulations we now return you to our regularly scheduled programming already in progress.
#57505From: Matthew J. W. RatcliffMay 23, 1993 1:57 PM
Since you're getting a mac anyway, check out the Sundance editor for the mac. It will control your decks and Toaster for full A/B roll.
#57527From: John CarMay 23, 1993 8:31 PM
Aki Were can I get informaiton on the Sundance editor? John Car
#57584From: Matthew J. W. RatcliffMay 24, 1993 4:48 PM
I can't seem to find the number, try Sundance Technology, Irving TX… or maybe its Dallas proper. They were a very low cost option with great features. The mac style editing interface irked editors who wanted raw EDLs, but it's easy to use
#57585From: Peter GreciMay 24, 1993 4:53 PM
I believe in the last issue of Desktop Video world there was an offer to recieve a free copy of Video Toaster User.
#57448From: Peter GreciMay 22, 1993 9:37 AM
The Toaster comes with a 3D Modelier or you can buy a sperate modeler like the Animatrix prg by Dubois. Dubois also makes a 3D Digitizer for $80 tho I still haven;t heard of a single person who has one so I have no idea if it's any good or not. The Sample Model that I got in their archive was pretty good tho but they don't mention in the Readme how much Tweaking was required to get it just right.
#57465From: John CarMay 22, 1993 1:40 PM
Thanks Peter I will check it out. John Car
#57588From: Peter GreciMay 24, 1993 4:54 PM
Always glad to help.