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#Uggh! (SoftVTR)

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#44334From: Bailey BrownMay 20, 1993 8:33 PM
Ugggggghhh! I finally got my Targa cables (cancelled the order with B&H and got them from Cables to Go), and I got out SoftVTR and installed it, and apparently I am lacking part #E25M372062 witch goes between the EVO-9650 and the funny twisted-pair type cable they use and their funny twisted-pair type cable to serial connector. Does anyone know what this cable is supposed to do? I guess it converts between RS422 and RS232. Why the heck didn't they include this obviously two-bit part with every copy of a package that costs several hundred dollars? Does anyone know of a workaround I can hack, buy, or make in case the SoftVTR people are slow at getting the part to me? Oh, well, I'm not yet done with the material for my two-minute demo tape, and having the Targa+ working is nice anyway. Bailey
#44336From: Don LandisMay 20, 1993 8:55 PM
B&H? Cables to go? Bailey, Bailey, Bailey … Didn't you ever hear of Radio Shack? I don't know where you live but I'm sure there must be a dozen stores nearby. If you can hack you should be able to draw out the pin configs of a two bit adapter and buy the stuff … up and running in an evening. Now if its a four bit part you're probably SOL (grd). Seriously, I buy the pieces, db9,db25, shells and wire at Radioshack for about 1/4 the price of prewired cables except for the common molded ones. Not sure about the RS422-RS232 protocols but I've been wanting to verify what I was told, ie. It is only a match of signals to proper pin numbers from db25(RS232) to db9(RS422). I might look this up in the specs tomorrow.
#44403From: Bailey BrownMay 21, 1993 1:03 PM
Don, I'm sorry but I'm strictly a software guy. The only thing I've ever fabricated was a null-modem cable and that pushed my soldering abilities their limits. The whole time I was using the soldering stand I was waiting for the hardware guys to walk in and start laughing. Big blobs of silver goo on each connection. SoftVTR appears to have good support. They are sending me the four-bit part which I don't know what it does and a dongle which I could never make. This is the first I've heard of the dongle but they say I need it. I don't know why the hell I didn't get this stuff in the original package, but they are sending it to me FEDEX Saturday delivery so it is no loss. Bailey
#44414From: Don LandisMay 21, 1993 3:01 PM
The dongle is an 8 bit part.$$g. I know what you mean about the laughing at your soldering skills. My brother-in-law is an expert (my evaluation) C programmer and when he looked at the code I wrote to do underwater cave mapping in Basic he just started laughing. That was the last attempt I ever made at writing code! Glad to hear SoftVTR took care of you. I'm planning to purchase this software in the near future.( Hi Angelo.) Don't like that dongle though. Got four of them now. I designed a structural steel device to support them sticking out the back and was considering patenting the device. Keep us posted on your progress with SoftVTR. Don Landis
#44426From: david W. mennenohMay 21, 1993 6:59 PM
Hmmm… but it's fairly cheap to buy a short cable to allow you to lay the dongles anywhere you'd like. <g> We've had to do this with having 3DS CADAM and something else – otherwise the computer would be a foot from the wall behind it. Dave
#44472From: Don LandisMay 22, 1993 6:51 PM
I was just kidding about the steel thing. Can you imagine it if all software required one of those dangle thangs. It does seem to be catching on lately. I think I would give up computers. Actually, I would like to find out who invented those things and subject em to some North Vietnamese POW torture!
#44679From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 26, 1993 7:40 AM
Don, one of your remarks made me wonder if the dongle could ever be designed into the computer, and set up with software instructions. You had made some comment about how they're catching on, and there was discussion about how far away from the wall the computer would have to be. Nik
#44743From: May 26, 1993 7:40 PM
Nik: >> dongle questions We have ALL of our dongles inside the computers! Makes much more sense, especially when you do as many shows and presentations as we do! And then loop the last one out to the back of the computer so we still have use of the parallel port. Works great! Greg Pyros
#44766From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 27, 1993 7:20 AM
Hey! Clever. It makes sense (dongles inside the computer, etc.). Nik
#44821From: John K. JordanMay 28, 1993 12:11 AM
Just a dongle comment… I put the lock inside the case too, fastened to one of the D25 knockouts common on todays cases. Helps keep the silly thing from walking away. Some enterprising sort should market a little kit consisting of some short ribbon cables and instructions for those without hardware resources. (Sounds like the perfect job for the superheros at Pyros & company. <g>) JKJ
#44830From: Angelo Guarino [DTI Inc]May 28, 1993 8:06 AM
John, I was away for a few days and am late on this thread. Are you having a problem with the software? Ang
#44850From: John K. JordanMay 28, 1993 12:07 PM
Mr. Ang, >problems with the software… No, I just caught up with a couple of notes on dongle etiquette and thought I butt in with my 2 cents worth. (some small talk about managing dongles with brackets, mounting, and such) You know me, if I had any problem with anything, I've got your number! <g> Since this seems to be a SoftVTR thread, let me ask you one… I may be doing some work for a group that has a couple of video editing suites full of BetaSP equipment (I don't know exactly what equipment they have yet.) What questions do I have to ask to find out if I can single frame to their equipment with your SoftVTR? I don't have room for a hardware controller and hope that the software will do the trick. Is SoftVTR still around $900? Thanks. JKJ
#44881From: Don LandisMay 28, 1993 7:47 PM
Nik: I understand there is a card that holds multiple locks internally but this takes up one more precious slot. My 12 slot MB is already full! I don't follow your logic on setting up a ROM with instr. as a security measure. This sounds like entering serial numbers during install which is hardly a security measure. But, your thought leads me to the following idea: How about a highly personallized code that address the user's name at various operations throughout the program, not just on startup. I don't think I would want my name showing up on hundreds of computers I had bootleged to. Kind of like leaving your name and address after you've committed a crime, so the cops can find you. This would have to be imbedded in the code by the dealer/installer. I know this depends more on the guilt psychology thing rather than mechanics but can you imagine if all software released from now on required these devices. We do need a better solution. —–Just read more ideas on this thread which should have a new name. I liked the routing internally fixing the last one to the cutout for the printer cable. Let's see now…. I have 61 different pieces of software with locks (ca. 1996) …gads I've run out of internal volume in my case!<g>
#44466From: Bailey BrownMay 22, 1993 5:29 PM
Don, They didn't get it to me today. I don't know what happened, but I hope they can explain it Monday. Bailey
#44470From: Don LandisMay 22, 1993 6:51 PM
Just enough to drive ya up the wall. And then when ya call on Monday some temp receptionist tells ya everybody's at comdex but not to worry because they call in daily!<g> right!
#44410From: Peter GallenMay 21, 1993 1:59 PM
The only work around I know of is Diaquest. Sorry, I've had a lousy day.
#44528From: Larry RaskMay 24, 1993 10:24 AM
Theres a better work around then that, V-LAN!! The Animax Card or Alix external desk top controllers . Less expensive then Diaquest. Great support. More flexibility. Better upgradeability. Supports more VTRs. Rotoscoping in 3DS. Targa+, ATVista, Illuminator Pro support for digitizing. Upgrade to OZ Video Editing with the same hardware. If you have any questions contact me.
#44521From: Larry RaskMay 24, 1993 10:15 AM
Are you interest in a V-LAN controller to help with some of these problems. For only about $200.00 dollars more then what you paid for SoftVTR, you would be done. Plus you have the advantage of having the best controller on the market, upgradeablility at any time to more machine control and editing. If you are interested in some information, contact me. SoftVTR is very limiting. (and as your pointing out very troublesome)
#44663From: Bailey BrownMay 25, 1993 7:30 PM
Larry, Yes, for a couple of days there I wish I had gone with your product. But now SoftVTR is working and I'm happy for now. I'll call you guys again when I have two decks. Bailey