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#HP Designjet 650c

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#44302From: Wayne LeongMay 20, 1993 11:34 AM
Has anyone seen a 3D Studio rendering on the new HP DesignJet 650c color plotter. I would like to know if there are 3DS drivers for it/exit
#44317From: MICHAEL A. PONDMay 20, 1993 2:55 PM
.. along the same topic output to the HP Design Jet 600 (greyscale) thanks MP
#44329From: yann bertaudMay 20, 1993 7:20 PM
No 3d Studio drivers for either the 600 or 660 color. However I would imagine that if HP makes a windows driver, you might be able to print to it using a Windows utility such as paint shop pro, or wingif. Both are available in the graphdev forum. Yann Bertaud – I.D.L. Autodesk.
#44369From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 21, 1993 8:33 AM
One customer was writing to the DesignJet in the way that Yann suggested, using Micrografx Designer. It's a good one for the Wishlist. Nik
#44425From: david W. mennenohMay 21, 1993 6:59 PM
Actually HP makes very nice windows drivers for the 650C they ship with the printer. As far as I have seen the best way to print images is from Micro Grafx Designer. It is about the only prgram that will support printing to anything larger than B-size. Corel Draw will allow you to print to 30×30 but that's it. You could actually use TIFFIN or PCXIN in AutoCAD and just plot it. Works great except you need to fool with the pen settings as AutoCAD will plot the bitmap with the same color scheme it uses for plots. Black as white and white as black. I tried reversing the pen/color settings but that doesn't work <g>. Dave Mennenoh
#44523From: Steve OrmondeMay 24, 1993 10:21 AM
David, What is the difference between the HP 550c and 650c? Steve Ormonde
#44536From: Eli J. BoyajianMay 24, 1993 1:25 PM
PMJI – but I think HP just announced the HP 1200c – 300dpi $1,695 — FWIW. Eli.
#44662From: david W. mennenohMay 25, 1993 7:30 PM
>>What is the difference between the HP 550c and 650c? Steve, About $8000 and 200lbs <G>. The 550c is an A-size (8 1/2 x 11) color ink jet printer. It is pretty nice really. The 650c is a large format color ink jet plotter. It will print up to E-size (36 x 48) sheet media and 36 x 50 feet or something with roll media. It is a very nice plotter for doing bitmap work or for AutoCAD. The ink cartrideges are also a lot different between the two. HP is going to go after the DTP world with this one. I think they may sell a lot of them for DTP type work. We have one on our show room and it really is sweet. Very fast full color output. And it has pretty nice windows drivers. They seem to work well but we have been having a slight problem with how it handles paper sizes. Anyway that's the diff… Dave Mennenoh
#44678From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 26, 1993 7:34 AM
HP came by and dropped a DesignJet 650c off in Product Support! Their presentation was directed towards the AutoCADders, but I said we'd like to see it with 3DS. They said that they had some questions about that, that it should work. A couple of us tried using their RHPADI and it rebooted 3DS and our computers no problem. We're encouraging there belief that there are 3DS-ers who would be very interested! They've done some nice plots with Instant Artist, as well as EPS files. Nik
#44828From: Phillip L. MillerMay 28, 1993 7:13 AM
How's that DesignJet 650c working? We're very close to ordering one but the sales rep's are hedging (or simply don't know) about some basic issues. I was hoping that you, or any one else in-the-know reading this thread, could answer a couple of questions: How Fast does it do Color? HP is claiming 6-7 min. for monochrome but does mean 4 passes=24-28 min. for a color plot? Do the Drivers for Windows, or the RHPADI, support raster image printing (TIF/TGA) or does one have to buy the PostScript add-on fo another $1500? What Resolution(s) does it support for Raster Files Plots? Has anyone tried plotting color on Non-HP color paper? Has Anyone Compared this model to the NovaJet? Thanks-in-Advance for any info on what seems like a great plotter for reasonable cash. – Phil
#44835From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 28, 1993 8:53 AM
Phil, I have some of the answers at work, but not all the answers. "How Fast does it do Color? HP is claiming 6-7 min. for monochrome but does mean 4 passes=24-28 min. for a color plot?" No, it's not that long — I've a list of times for the different size plots. It does not do 4 passes, by the way. I am pretty sure that the inks, which are in adjacent cartridges, require only one pass. "Do the Drivers for Windows, or the RHPADI, support raster image printing (TIF/TGA) or does one have to buy the PostScript add-on for another $1500?" Don't know. We have the add-on though. "What Resolution(s) does it support for Raster Files Plots?" I think 300 dpi color, 600 mono. "Has anyone tried plotting color on Non-HP color paper?" I was told by an HP rep that black plots should be on non-HP Paper. Color plots are a little duller on regular paper. "Has Anyone Compared this model to the NovaJet?" Don't know. Nik (I'll get more info later, unless someone else leaps in).
#44984From: david W. mennenohMay 31, 1993 9:35 AM
Here are some answers – It will do a color E-size plot in under 10 minutes. I have verified this. The drivers for windows support whatever your program will output. You don't need the postscript simm unless you want to print postscript. I have plotted some very nice TGA's at C-size and they turn out great. You can plot at any resolution your program supports – it seems the best program to do large scale bitmaps is Micro Grafx designer though. As far as non HP paper is concerned – only use it for monochrome. Although I have not yet tried it – HP says color turns out poorly on non-HP paper. It blows away the NovaJet – both in speed and quality. If your are seriously considering a great color plotter don't look at the NovaJet. Overall, I highly recommend this plotter it is very fast – quiet – and the color is nothing sort of spectacular. Dave Mennenoh