CompuServe Thread

Commodore _sold_

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#142161From: Ottmar RoehrigMay 2, 1994 6:06 AM
As just reported by Commodore Germany, Commodore is _sold_ to a yet unknown big japanese company. They claim to keep the Amiga-line intact and even announce the availability of the A4000T and severeal C=-monitors. Accordigng to C= GER the subsidaries in UK, Skandinavia, Germany, Holland and Italy continue to exist. Nevertheless, if this _is_ a rumor it is one brouught up by C= itself. I talked to people there directly. Ottmar Roehrig from Hamburg, Germany
#142211From: GTI GermanyMay 2, 1994 11:58 AM
Hallo There ! I just wanted to mention that I have heard exactly the same information. I understand that Commo germany would end up as Head Office for the whole european operation with Italy, England & Scandinavia reporting to frankfurt. I have had a lot of contact with many sources who have spoken directly to Commo today. Exactly who it is who is investing is not yet known. The name "Nintendo" has been mentioned, but I favour someone from completly outside the Computer Industry (but maybe from the Electronics sector ??) We're still smiling here ! Cheers Richard
#142214From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPMay 2, 1994 12:11 PM
Richard, If true, don't you think that Gould's position as a creditor will allow him the leverage to immediately be placed on the board of directors of any purchasing company?
#142233From: GTI GermanyMay 2, 1994 1:39 PM
That must not be so. My understanding is that the appointed liquidator has to get the best deal in the interests of the creditors (incl. Mr. Gould). End of story ! Cheers Richard
#142258From: Steve Bennett/SYSOPMay 2, 1994 4:31 PM
But since Gould is in the position of a creditor, he will have the ability to reduce the debt owed him in exchange for a new interest in any company (new or existing) that winds up with the other assets.
#142216From: Ottmar RoehrigMay 2, 1994 12:49 PM
I know. This is exactly what C= Frankfurt was telling to _everybody_. It's a pitty that I was not able to reach Alwin Stumpf (GM C= Germany) today, but I will continue to try tomorrow. Dunno if this will change anything, though. Some more stuff I heard from C=: Development will go on with at least 25 dedicated, well-known people. It will continue to exist in West Cehster, but long-term plans are to handle development in UK. The facilities in the Philipines could be used by "the buyer" very soon, as these are not directly connected to CIL/CEL. There is one company putting pressure on the Philipine's facilities which could be paid out very quickly. Note: This is information which is currently spread by C= Germany. _I_ _personally_ do not believe it, but it I would be happy to be convinced otherwise. Currently C= has said _nothing_ in respect to this news which could be verified via other sources. Ottmar Roehrig from Hamburg, Germany
#142232From: GTI GermanyMay 2, 1994 1:37 PM
I deliberately didi no try to speak to Mr. Stumpf today. After all he has a lot more important things to do then to chat to me. In any case as I or GTI cannot influence the decisions at Commo in the smallest degree and as i do not work for the press like you Ottmar there would have been little point. I was going to hold back the news from the Forum until I saw that you had already mentioned the developments. Does hat mean that mr. Stumpf told you officially or off the record ?. A number of fellow Amiga-Dealers i know spoke to him personally and came away with the same information. I see no reason to doubt the information that he has been giving – but is it not up to the liquidator to decide what gets sold to whom ? Or has that already been decided (as i think) before Friday and the buyer just wanted to avoid having to buy either th US Operation or get saddled with the overall debts. (It's the buyers right to bid for the parts of the company he wants at the price he is prepared to pay – he liquidator must only be convinced that the offer is in the best interest of the creditors). I guess a statement MUST be issued in the US today to give credence to the comments made by C= Germany. I can understand that Mr. Stumpf said something as our lines were hot today with dealers wanting to know what was happening, but this thing has to be co-ordinated !! I had heard that an official press statement was to be made by c=Germany this afternoon but if it was made it never got through to me ! Mr. Stumpf has always been honest in giving information in the past – I would certainly tend to believe him again now – we jsut need a small confirmaton either from the Buyer (in Jap-land) or the Seller (the liquidator) ! Still hoping Richard
#142234From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 2, 1994 1:43 PM
sounds good
#142230From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 2, 1994 1:29 PM
I kept the faith! I kept the faith! hahahaha All you negative people go to hell. just joking, well not really.
#142332From: Paul HigginbottomMay 2, 1994 9:51 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Mitsui. And no, that's not Mitsumi or Mitsubishi, etc.
#142353From: Steve AhlstromMay 2, 1994 10:37 PM
Paul, Is Mackraz and (darn, can't remember his name) still with Mitsui?
#143193From: Paul HigginbottomMay 4, 1994 9:56 PM
Have no idea, sorry. Last I knew, Jim Mackraz was consulting with Go.
#143264From: Steve AhlstromMay 5, 1994 12:58 AM
Just curious … shared a cab with him in Vegas a few years ago … he'd just left CBM and was working for Mitsui, as well as another guy from CBM whose name I haven't been able to remember for years.
#142606From: Ottmar RoehrigMay 3, 1994 3:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Mitsui. And no, that's not Mitsumi or Mitsubishi, etc. do you have an more information? Ottmar Roehrig from Hamburg, Germany
#143194From: Paul HigginbottomMay 4, 1994 9:56 PM
No, no more info. I just knew how involved Mitsui was with C=.
#142995From: Rob Nicholson (HMSMay 4, 1994 10:10 AM
We've heard mention of the name "ACER" in connection with C= recently. Regards, Rob.
#143268From: Ottmar RoehrigMay 5, 1994 1:44 AM
But ACER is not a "big asian company". And no, it is not Sony, as confirmed by C= Germany. Please don't start speculating about this topics. Post if someone has _informations_. _This_ is what we need nowadays. Ottmar Roehrig from Hamburg, Germany