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new POCO

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#99824From: NAAUGMay 3, 1994 8:51 PM
Hi Nik; Hey dude, just wanted to let you know that I uploaded one of the forthcoming routines we're (Toxic Frog) working on for Animator Pro. I said it before, ANI is one of the most powerful raster-editors out there, and it's because of POCO's open-endedness that these routines are even possible. I'd like your opinion on CELSPR.ZIP (CELSPRAY.POC)… let me know if more of these routines would be of benefit to the tappers here. Mark McGraw and the NAAUG faculty have started up the telecourses again in the ACAD forum section 14. The sooner we get a section here, the sooner we can start making these files available to ASOFTers. Looking forward to your feedback. -dave
#99895From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 4, 1994 9:24 AM
"I'd like your opinion on CELSPR.ZIP (CELSPRAY.POC)" Sure – I'd love to check it out. It's great to have POCO routines – and I'll mention your contribution to Mark Gerhard, the Animator Pro product manager. Nik
#99940From: dave aguilarMay 4, 1994 2:28 PM
/* Sure – I'd love to check it out. It's great to have POCO routines – and I'll mention your contribution to Mark Gerhard, the Animator Pro product manager. */ I and two other guys (Mark McGraw and Greg Schutz) formed a company a few months ago… we're in process (among other things) of building toolsets for many of the programs we use (including 3DS and ANIPRO)… looking into serious IPAS and POCO development… already we've created several tools for our own image construction in POCO… if you like CELSPRAY.POC, I'd be happy to post some of the others we have around that tappers might enjoy here. And if Mark (Gerhard) would like these to become supplemental to the standard Anipro distribution (some of them are pretty powerful), I doubt Toxic Frog Inc. or NAAUG would have a problem with it. -dave
#100250From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 6, 1994 8:00 AM
"if Mark (Gerhard) would like these to become supplemental to the standard Anipro distribution…" This is generous – Mark is gone for a week. The CELSPRAY I haven't really had a chance to play around with. I downloaded it; it seems to be working well! Thanks. Is it possible to spray over time? I mean, you start spraying the first image, then the second image is created on frame 2 along with the first image. On frame 3, you have 3 images. When you play the animation back, you see the effect being created in front of your eyes. Nik
#100294From: mark schneiderMay 6, 1994 11:36 AM
Hi Nik, is the celspray zip on-line ? meaning is it available for the general public ? It looks tres intersting! Mark
#100316From: Jonas Ruikis [ADESK]May 6, 1994 2:22 PM
Mark, << cellspray ? >> File Info for CELSPR.ZIP Section: Autodesk Animator Contributor: 73204,3522 Size: 112773 Submitted: 5/5/94 Type: Binary Accesses: 11 Title: CELSPRAY v1.0 – a POCO routine to apply CELs Keys: POCO CEL SPRAY ANIMATOR PRO NAAUG TELECOURSE TOXIC FROG This routine allows CELs to be sprayed into the current frame much the same way SPRAY allows the current brush to function. It is the first of several routines coming down the pike from Toxic Frog, a shareware outfit comprised of three guys with a lot of time on their hands (sarcasm intended). It is freeware, but was promoted by NAAUG and the telecourse project. Place the POCO routine in your RESOURCE subdirectory and try it out.
#100391From: dave aguilarMay 7, 1994 1:41 AM
is the celspray zip on-line ? meaning is it available for the general public ? It looks tres intersting! It is free to the general public. Have fun, and if you'd like to see more of this kind of thing, let us know. We use Animator Pro as much as we use 3DS, and your feedback drives our internal utility genenration. -dave
#100390From: dave aguilarMay 7, 1994 1:41 AM
/* This is generous – Mark is gone for a week. */ Wnen he has some time, I'd be interested in his feedback too. /* The CELSPRAY I haven't really had a chance to play around with. I downloaded it; it seems to be working well! Thanks. */ I really appreciate the info you sent us on POCO… it was responsible for things like this… really! I would like more info on POE's, how to register as a developer (since you're seeing firsthand some of our smaller projects at work), and what it takes to build POE files… some are relly getting intense. /* Is it possible to spray over time? I mean, you start spraying the first image, then the second image is created on frame 2 along with the first image. On frame 3, you have 3 images. When you play the animation back, you see the effect being created in front of your eyes. */ Absolutely. I should have some time on my hands later this week… I'll implement the feature then. Cool idea… I like this suggestion and can already see some neat applications of this ability. p.s. hope the 6 .GIFs and the .DOC files helped to show some of the potential of this routine. If you and Mark approve of future uploads, we'll continue to provide images along with the routines so that (like Gary's images for IPAS) people see the application of the routines. -dave
#100540From: Randy SteeleMay 8, 1994 4:00 PM
>>Is it possible to spray over time? I mean, you start spraying the first image, then the second image is created on frame 2 along with the first image. On frame 3, you have 3 images. When you play the animation back, you see the effect being created in front of your eyes.>> Nik, Some time back I uploaded a POCO program called RandCell that accomplishes exactly what you are asking. It will randomly place a cell over an entire animation over a specified number of frames. You can also limit the area you want to be utilized in the frames – for example to just use 1/4 (or whatever) of your 640 x 480 animation. It is in the POCO library I believe.
#100727From: mark schneiderMay 9, 1994 4:25 PM
HI Joe, hmm, this sounds interesting, perhaps you Nik can leaf thru the files and get us the name of it! thanks Nik! hehe Mark Schneider, Montreal.
#100982From: Randy SteeleMay 10, 1994 10:23 PM
Mark- It's called Randcell.zip and it's in the Animator file library. Joe
#101141From: mark schneiderMay 11, 1994 3:51 PM
Hi Joe, Merci buckets for the info, this will help quite a few users. Mark
#101050From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 11, 1994 9:24 AM
"hmm, this sounds interesting, perhaps you Nik can leaf thru the files and get us the name of it!" You might have found it already, but here it is: ======================================================================= File Info for RANDCE.ZIP Section: Autodesk Animator Contributer: 71227,3352 Size: 7756 Submitted: 16-Jul-93 Type: Binary Accesses: 90 Title: Randcell.poc Keys: POCO RANDOM CELL PASTE AAPRO ANIMATOR UTILITY This poco program will randomly place a cell over a number of frames. Many variables giving the program a lot of flexibility. Experiment for multiple effects depending on what kind of a "look" you want. Fully working shareware. QB's Computer Animation & Graphics. (Approximate download time at 2400 bps using CIS B: 0:26)
#101142From: mark schneiderMay 11, 1994 3:51 PM
Hi Nik, thanks again for the info!, I'll get that one … ps. what the heck is happening with the file base ??? today is wedsneday, and still no new files uploaded ??? what about version 1.1 of that poco routine, (celspray ?) it was uploaded last friday ! ok, maybe you guys forgot to drop in in the drawer. bye for now mark
#101144From: mark schneiderMay 11, 1994 3:52 PM
HI again Nik, is aaplayhi capable of playing audio cd's while playing a flc ? thanks, Mark
#100740From: dave aguilarMay 9, 1994 6:17 PM
/* Some time back I uploaded a POCO program called RandCell that accomplishes exactly what you are asking. It will randomly place a cell over an entire animation over a specified number of frames. You can also limit the area you want to be utilized in the frames – for example to just use 1/4 (or whatever) of your 640 x 480 animation. It is in the POCO library I believe. */ Sounds similar except for the cumulative effect, Joe. Check out CELSPR.ZIP for the added functionality. Nik should have it available soon. -dave
#101040From: Nik Grant [adesk]May 11, 1994 8:55 AM
"POCO program called RandCel" I must have missed this (by the way, sorry I am late on this thread. I was away for a few days). It looks great! I hope that Marc and Dave take a look at it. Good options, including being able to do it over a single frame. I notice that it's presented as shareware. Did you get any money from this? For a wishlist (this is to Dave as well): I would like to use my mouse to position the cel over the frames. If I could use the draw tool and write my name "live" over frames… Sorta like playing back a macro but have the effect be a playable animation. (It wouldn't have to be *my* name – it could be someone else's!) Also – I notice that at 320×200 some of the dialogue options are off the edge of the screen a little. There were a couple of very long horizontal options that would have been better if they were shorter. I realize that you haven't worked on this for a while and aren't soliciting feedback, but I was excited by the effect of watching the screen build up with the cel. One last thing – I probably would modify the routine's messages with the thought of someone using it frequently. There are a couple of phrases that I would get tired of reading again! I will make sure that Mark Gerhard (product manager) is aware of these routines. I believe he is still away though. I have estimated that there are 2 POCO users out there – looks like I was wrong! Nik
#101145From: mark schneiderMay 11, 1994 3:52 PM
Hi Nik, there is a program that does this, a poco, that someone wrote!, remember the little picture of santa ? with a small child ? the flc is on the board somewhere, the guy who wrote it uploaded a sample flc of santa and his child, the flc starts with a picture, then you see slowly bit by bit as if someone is wiping away parts of the picture, and another picture is revealed under the other one. What is cool is that is is like realtime wiping or "painting reveal paint", very cool, I'll check my stuff and tell you the name of it, it was very nice, but was not shareware, a few $$$ to buy the routine. I'll let you know bye Mark