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#143620From: Massimo BrogioniMay 6, 1994 2:00 AM
Okay guys, I've got what you can call an email flood here. Sorry if I cannot respond to you personnaly, I will however post the last news from TODAY, 04 May 1994. 21H30 CET. Well Peter Kittel is not working at commodore currently but don't panic, he hasn't been fired, he is just having some vacation and is quite busy because he just bought a new car. I'm talking about him because I know that all of you MUST know who Peter Kittel is. Maybe this will give more credibility to what I post, since some people are still sceptic (I don't blame them). Well Peter is not working currently but he is phoning every day to stay tuned. He came to the office on Monday, because his boss asked him to call most of the german develloppers to give them the information I gave you the same day. So, when you will read this, I think that many others will be able to confirm my statements. Now, you can trust in this. So, I called Peter home tonight and asked him for the latest infos. Well, things haven't changed much. But It is now definitly done, Commodore has been bought by a big asian company whose name is still unknown. The Amiga product line in its entire range will be maintained. Confirmed. Commodore will not become a console maker, the CD32, though, as part of the line will still be produced and supported. No informations about Mehdi Ali and Irvin Gould. Are they still there ? Both of them held about 50 % of the Commodore shares and therefore, an agreement must have been reached with them. Peter doesn't know who is the buyer, honnestly. He doesn't even have clues. Alwin Stumpf didn't tell anything, he just said that thing about the "big asian investor, something of the size of Sony (this is NOT a clue). To americans : It is very doubtful that Commodore will stop its activities in the USA. All developpment comes from there. There are about 25 people left in West chester, many have been laid off. It is quite possible though, that some of them will come back when the storm is over. Commodore is a huge nebulous organization, previously made of about 35 single companies, of which 5, namely Commodore Electronics limited, Commodore Intl., C= France, C= Spain and C= Belgium have been liquidated. That leaves about 30 more to embarass you with their marketing strategy ;-). The development team for hardware is a company, there are separate companies for almost everything at commodore, even the coffee brewing team has its own structure ;-). Don't you remember that message from Dave Haynie, where he told that he's been working in 3 or 4 different companies since he's at CBM, without moving away from his desk ? That's why many of the speculations you read about Commodores future were FALSE (-MB-). It's just impossible to make financial speculations about a company where even the employees don't exactly know how it's run. This might be annoying, but a last, it is also the reason why a good surprise was still possible. Commodore is nothing to speculate with. Commodore will not make any WRITTEN announcements, this includes the net, they are only giving informations by phone, until every remaining details are cleared up. You will have to live with that for the coming fortnight (10-12 days, to be more precise). Commodore US will not make any comments, they don't even answer the phone anymore, as I was told (understandable but not very cool for emotional people). On the other hand, CBM germany is quite eager to give informations by phone, so just call them, if you speak german. What you just read is not a stolen information Commodore would have liked to keep secret. You read this because Commodore wants you to. Take it as an oral announcement. please no flames or garbage. OKay, that's all for now. Gilles Bourdin Paris FAX(331)46266261 gbo@ramses.fdn.org -+- Brogio Quoter V 0.1 Postulato di boling: "Se ti senti bene non preoccuparti: presto passera'".
#143641From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 6, 1994 3:21 AM
Ahhh….hemmm..cough..cough..anybody off that diet yet<g> I kinda saved alot of words that somebody gotta eat. Part 2 The ibmer and the mac close in for the kill, amigaman is in a daze and can hardly stand on his feet. Is this the end of amigaman, his fans turn away in disbelief some yeiling "ya bum I loss my money betting on you, ibmer kick his but". Amigaman jumps to his feet in a last effort reaches for his newtek gun…loads it with his new bullet..the flyer but wait..there's something printed on the flyer-not ready until fall… uhhh moans amigaman as he slumps to the floor. ibmer and the mac move in for the kill greedily glazing at the chipset of amigaman which will soon be theirs…but wait batfans..amigafans..what's this appearing out of the dark alleyway right behind the fallen body of the amigaman leaning over him he says"I'm from asia here to help you"…who is this man from asia..as he steps into the light his face is revealed …ladies and gentlemen it is no other than KATO! woooooaaaAAAHHH!
#143842From: Karl F. KugelMay 6, 1994 10:43 PM
Part 3: Live! LIVE!! L I V E!!!!! (as the madly cackling Asian in the stained lab coat attaches the electrodes to the inert hulk of Amigaman) <RBG> -Karl Speaking from the Rubble.
#143881From: CHARLES WILLIAMSMay 7, 1994 3:02 AM
Well if that's part 3 then this is part 4- The amiga awakens a little with the help of KATO from Asia, reaching up he trys his best to speak hoping the asian would get the message " Kato…you have to find the people who…cough..cough… …first invented me…you must bring the original team back together.. …only they can bring out my real potential…HicUp…Buurp…." Remember folks same batchannel…amigachannel same amigatime…the never ending adventures of Amigaman.
#144251From: Joe lasenMay 8, 1994 11:41 AM
Yeah. What ever happened to Dale Luck and Company, the guys who did the original Intuition Code. How about full 3D implementation of AmigaDos so the interface looks like a visual Mud. Put a setbox on a TV with built in multitasking, Risc based A5000 Development systems, Toaster Flyer Video editing systems for content,In the words of Brad Carvey" Think we could sell any of these?"
#144531From: Vic WagnerMay 9, 1994 3:20 PM
Joe, Just for the record: R J Michaels (sp) did the 'original' Intuition code Jim Macraz then took responsibility for it. Peter Cherna was then given responsibility for it. I don't know after that.
#144705From: Arnie CachelinMay 10, 1994 4:31 PM
I seem to recall many of the original Amiga team hooking up with Trip again for 3DO… expect to hear them changing jobs again RSN…
#144713From: Steve AhlstromMay 10, 1994 5:05 PM
"hooking up with Trip again for 3DO" … what does the "again" mean? My memory tells me that Trip had nothing to do with Amiga Corp as he was the president of Electronic Arts at the time — about the same time frame I was at Synapse and you were probably with Antic.
#144906From: SyndesisMay 11, 1994 10:03 AM
If it wasn't for Trip's support of the Amiga (e.g. Marble Madness, Deluxe Paint) in the early days, would the Amiga be where it is today. (Rhetorical question, ignoring current events. 🙂 I think it did take a special relationship between EA and Amiga Corp to get things rolling… And Trip's support of 3DO is further evidence to me that that link exist(ed)s.
#144918From: EducomMay 11, 1994 11:20 AM
Arnie dais that because a few of the original Amiga crew went to 3DO after some deception by C= heads. Jim Sachs was one of these people to hook up with 3DO… Fred. Frederic Botton from Paris, France fbotton@cix.compulink.co.uk
#144923From: Steve AhlstromMay 11, 1994 11:28 AM
Frederic, Yes, some of the original Amiga people are at 3DO … what I questioned was the use of the phrase "hooking up with Trip again". Trip Hawkins left Apple to found Electronic Arts. Other than being one of the early supporters (and one of the early deserters) of the Amiga, in his role at EA, he had nothing (that I can remember) to do with Amiga Corp. Of the original Amiga folks I can think of only 2 that I know are at 3DO … RJ Mical and Dale Luck. There may be more, but I'm unaware of it (and I'm sure I'll be "informed" if there are more <grin>). Out of curiousity, I wonder where some of the others are, like Jay (after a couple of kidney transplants, how is he doing there days?), Sassenrath, Bob Pariseau, etc. (Oh yeah, just thought of the obvious person from Amiga Corp who is now at 3DO … he head guy, Dave Morse).
#144953From: Dale LarsonMay 11, 1994 3:37 PM
Did Needle do 3do? I think Carl is still living on his mountain, but I haven't heard about any post CDTV stuff he's done. — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#144971From: Arnie CachelinMay 11, 1994 4:32 PM
I just meant that Trip and EA were real early Amiga fans and supporters, and they are all probably well acquainted.
#144399From: Jim SakladMay 8, 1994 10:39 PM
> Live! LIVE!! L I V E!!!!! (as the madly cackling Asian in the > stained lab coat attaches the electrodes to the inert hulk of Amigaman) Sorry, LIVE! has been dead for years now… He's dead, Jim . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#144416From: Charles HillMay 9, 1994 12:37 AM
Uh, I could have sworn that I just read Live! has been picked up and updated within the last month. I know there are some units still at use at Nickelodeon Studios, too. -Chas
#144527From: Jim SakladMay 9, 1994 3:04 PM
Chas – > I could have sworn that I just read Live! has been picked up and > updated within the last month. Could be… That's a story I didn't hear. . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#144624From: Karl F. KugelMay 10, 1994 2:07 AM
Snarling, Igor retreats into the shadows, vowing to return. Amigaman WILL live, he WILL! We just need a little lightning. . . -Karl Speaking from the Rubble.
#144398From: Jim SakladMay 8, 1994 10:39 PM
Massimo – > I'm talking about him because I know that all of you MUST know who > Peter Kittel is. Nope. Who's Peter Kittel? . . . . JimDoc, on AutoPilot
#144621From: Massimo BrogioniMay 10, 1994 1:42 AM
Peter kittel is the ADSP Support manager Europe.