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#PAL Toaster

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#145522From: Jerry ThompsonMay 14, 1994 12:39 AM
Re: PAL Toaster. The data in the Toaster framebuffer is a sampled composite NTSC video signal (like D2). This gives you less data to deal with and manipulate than RGB. The Toaster software actually calculates what the NTSC signal would look like at a particular point in time to write a pixel in the frame buffer. The Toaster hardware relies on certain NTSC video characteristics. One being that the color information is encoded onto the BW carrier signal in 4 "pixel" long time increments. It's kind of like HAM mode, where the color of a pixel is determined by the colors of the preceding pixels. This is why you see a "chunky" look to the DVE effects. The hardware is manipulating the data in chunks because it would be very difficult to calculate the correct color for individual pixels. That's easy to do in RGB, not so easy with an NTSC video signal (or HAM mode). But you don't have to calculate the colors or deal with individual pixels at all if you work with the data in groups which correspond to the NTSC color encoding cycles. Anyway, the point is, PAL video does not encode color the way NTSC does. Newtek could probably rewrite their software to read/write digitized PAL waveforms, they could probably change their encoder/decoder to do PAL, but they can't do their DVE effects in PAL and get correct colors without a lot more processing bandwidth in the hardware. A BW Toaster or one without DVEs, probably would not be a big seller. It's not that Newtek doesn't care about the PAL market, there is a real technical reason the current design can't do PAL. Newtek had a very clever hardware design which required NTSC color encoding. The choice was either NTSC only, or duke it out with everyone else who was trying to do digital video in a color space model (like RGB). -Jerry Thompson
#145744From: David HammMay 15, 1994 12:42 AM
(This is to anyone actually…) But I was wondering if NewTek knows about (or is connected to) the software company featured on page 94 of the June issue of Technical Analysis of Stocks & Commodities magazine?? The "News Release" says the company (NewTEK Industries) has a technical analysis market program available for the PC market called "Compu/Chart", and lists the adress as: NewTEK Industries PO Box 46116 Los Angeles, CA 90046 (213) 874-6669 (AmigaWorld lists NewTek's address in Topeka, KS.) – Dave
#145749From: Vance SchowalterMay 15, 1994 1:28 AM
NewTek is supposed to be situated only in Topeka. Could be the makings of a legal battle over name. -= Vance =- Image Master Flying high on Imagine and Imagemaster R/t!
#145754From: J Saperstein/FontBankMay 15, 1994 2:09 AM
These two "Newteks" are totally different companies, Dave. In fact, there are about six Newteks and Newtech's floating around. No one seems to have started trying to claim the name as totally their own and I suspect that none will. The name itself is fairly called "descriptive" and probably can't be trademarked. Jerry
#145845From: Chris LesterMay 15, 1994 12:33 PM
The PeeCee world also have a company which markets a product called "C-Net"… although I've heard of no legal battles there. Gee… I guess I can start my own "MicroSoft"! Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! Clap On! <clap clap> Clap Off! <Clap Cla{{*&NO CARRIER
#145849From: Dale LarsonMay 15, 1994 1:19 PM
Why would someone *want* to call a company MicroSoft? I can't imagine that its too popular with the ladies… — Dale L. Larson, Intangible Assets Manufacturing
#145879From: Chris LesterMay 15, 1994 3:44 PM
OTFL! Makes one wonder about the actual "power" Bill Gates actually has, eh? Chris – Fast and Low on my '020! Clap On! <clap clap> Clap Off! <Clap Cla{{*&NO CARRIER
#145881From: Paul IdolMay 15, 1994 3:57 PM
ROFL!!!!!!! (Heard it before but boy does it always get a laugh!) Paul
#146002From: Christopher LapriseMay 16, 1994 6:37 AM
'' The "News Release" says the company (NewTEK Industries) has a technical analysis market program available for the PC market called "Compu/Chart", '' Lawsuit time. 🙂 -Chris
#146043From: Jerry ThompsonMay 16, 1994 12:53 PM
I used to talk to someone from NuTek in Chicago who got a lot of Toaster support calls. -Jerry Thompson
#145858From: Ron LegroMay 15, 1994 2:15 PM
PMJI, but interesting comments on the Toaster and PAL. I've got to wonder why the PAL version of DCTV, along with a real-time gizmo like the Personal Animation Recorder, couldn't find a decent market in Europe. Users in general seem to park their brains after thinking about the Toaster. Even Opalvision has promise for the European market. — Ron Legro / MILWAUKEE WI USA via Amiga Autopilot 1.72 — the only way to fly