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#Financial Management

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#145343From: Ed VishootMay 13, 1994 7:20 AM
I wonder how many Amiga projects have been influenced by similar experiences? Hummm, I wonder if this is what has happened to that "super spreadsheet" program I have been waiting for over a year now?
#145366From: Steve AhlstromMay 13, 1994 10:45 AM
Ed, I don't know. In my case I was going to it just for something to do (I get bored easily). When I was told of an impending commericial release of something similar I decided the niche was filled and there was no need for me to spend a year or more on a shareware project. (Hey Michael, want you Quicken back?). As for the spreadsheet, I can't speak about that because I don't know. It is very close to release. The last beta I got from the author was on the 30th of April (Commodore's liquidation announcement was what, the 29th?). I would assume that after all this time, work, money, and effort, it will be released … but I haven't asked (lately).
#145411From: Christian BusseMay 13, 1994 4:52 PM
Ed, I believe(d) I had uploaded a demo disk of the award-winning "TurboCalc v2.0" spreadsheet program for the Amiga. Come to think of it, I don't believe I actually saw the file in these hallowed halls… Was called "TCALC.DMS" if I remember right. Was even in english but missing some of the demo files which are on the german demo disk (even a spreadsheet for you to play "4 in a row" with!). Shall I compose another disk and u/l it or is it actually here??? // Chris coming in from Germany \X/ still on AutoPilot 1.061….
#145811From: Ed VishootMay 15, 1994 7:32 AM
Chris, I don't think "TurboCalc v2.0" is the spreadsheet I have been patiently waiting for, especially since I just learned another beta version was released a little while ago! "Award-winning" sounds intriguing. Is there a synopis of "TurboCalc v2.0" features available (ARexx support, math functions, charting capabilities, etc…)? I would like to know these before downloading a huge demo file 🙂 EdV
#145893From: Franz RasperMay 15, 1994 4:51 PM
Hello Ed, Pardom me for jumping in. I am using TurboCalc v2.0 (German version) since a half year at buisness and I am very content with it. The program is not as good as Excel 4.0 but it is very userfriendly, fast (speed is always relative) and it has a lot of useful basic functions and a very good AREXX support too(in my opinion). TurboCalc 2.0 supports KICK/WB 3.0 almost perfectly. There are a lot of Finacial Management commands too. TC 2.0 can read MS Excel, Professional Calc, CSV and ASCII files. The only disadvantage is that the printout of TurboCalc diagramms are not as good as printouts with PageStream (<grin>). If you have any further question feel free to ask me. Franz 🙂 flying from Aying(Germany) with Amiga 1200`030 & Autopilot
#146283From: Ed VishootMay 17, 1994 7:28 AM
Thanks for the input Franz! I especially appreciate any comments from someone that actually uses the product, and in your case particularly so because you are counting on it in a business. I personally have not seen any signs of TurboCalc v2.0 here in the US, neither local dealer nor mail-order advertisements. Do you know if there is an English version available? Maybe I should just checkout the demo…. EdV
#146354From: Franz RasperMay 17, 1994 3:31 PM
In Germany you can get the TurboCalc V2.0 by Stefan Ossowski`s Schatztruhe Gesellschaft fur Software mbH Veronikastr. 33 45131 Essen Germany Phone: 0201/788778 FAX: 0201/798447 I bought it for 149,– DM (about 80 Dollar). As far as I know there is an English version available. Tomorrow, I will call my dealer to get sure. 🙂 I have already read the message from Werner to Christian, in which he claims that TurboCalc crashs very often, but I didnt have these problems. (maybe not enough memory ?!?) I have an Amiga 1200 with Blizzard turboboard (68EC030), 4 MB fast memory, harddisk, multiscan monitor etc. My version of TC is 2.05d and 100728 bytes long (packed by TurboImploder). If I were you I would checkout the demo version. BTW what would you like to do with Turbocalc exactly ? Franz flying from Aying(Germany) with Amiga 1200`030 & Autopilot
#146452From: David HammMay 17, 1994 11:42 PM
Hi Franz… >> If I were you I would checkout the demo version. Hmmm… wish I'd thought of that. I just ordered Pro Calc 2 AGA (for my A4000) to handle my portfolio info. Crossing my fingers… – Dave
#146856From: Franz RasperMay 19, 1994 12:06 PM
Hi David >> Hmmm… wish I'd thought of that. I just ordered Pro Calc 2 AGA (for my A4000) to handle my portfolio info. You can checkout the demo version too. Turbocalc is much cheaper than Pro Calc AGA, isnt it ? How about retractation the order ? Franz flying from Aying(Germany) with Amiga 1200`030 & Autopilot
#146579From: Ed VishootMay 18, 1994 11:31 AM
Thanks for the info! I am looking for a "well rounded" general purpose spreadsheet to support a small business adventure (tracking hours, materials, costs, etc.) that has active technical support available. I also would like to use it to track some personal investments. Thankfully, not all my investments have gone the way my Comodore stock has gone 🙁 EdV
#146857From: Franz RasperMay 19, 1994 12:06 PM
Did you checkout Turbocalc already ? IF "yes" than I would be glad to know your opinion about TurboCalc. I believe that TurboCalc is th right program for you 🙂 BTW is Commodore really bankruptcy and the produktion of Amiga computers finished ? Some people claimed that Samsung bought Commodore. Franz flying from Aying(Germany) with Amiga 1200`030 & Autopilot
#146076From: Christian BusseMay 16, 1994 3:18 PM
Ed, "award-winning" refers to the award TurboCalc 2.0 received as "Best Spreadsheet software for the Amiga" by German mag AmigaPlus. Some time ago I posted such a sysnopsis in these hallowed halls but that's probably rolled off the forum by now… TC has about 140 functions, all(!) of them accessable via ARexx. Yes, it does charting (incl. proportional scaling), line, bar, pie diagrams, also in 3D; any special math functions you need? Anyway, the demo disk's size is pretty small for such a program (I believe it was only about 150K…). // Chris coming in from Germany \X/ still on AutoPilot 1.061….
#146112From: Werner KazmierzakMay 16, 1994 6:02 PM
Chris, PMFJI, I installed the TC demo last week from the CoverDisk of AmigaPlus. I agree with you, it's a very good looking excel-type piece of s/w. But alas, when playing with that beast, I would 3 of 5 tries get a software error when quitting the program because of corrupted memory. So, alas, the program is absolutely useless for serious applications. OTOH, unreliability and crashing of s/w is very common with many other Amiga products (ProPage, DynaCadd, BeckerText…). This is the main reason for the Amiga not having made it's way into business use. Sometimes I think I am the only developer who is enforcering and mungwalling his programs, on different hardware configurations, prior to release. My customers (and the tax offices) would not allow any excuse for a financial management program like bookkeeping or payroll s/w to crash, leaving them with unreliable results. – wkc – … via AP from Hamburg, Germany
#146550From: Ed VishootMay 18, 1994 6:44 AM
Chris, I don't need any "special" math functions at the moment, but I can see some future applications that I might want to apply some trig functions to data held in the spreadsheet. Of course with a good ARexx interface, I could do these through ARexx so it may not be important! If I have been following the message traffic here correctly, I do not believe the demo has been posted, so could you be so kind (I sure hope the demo is in English, I don't think I could afford the telephone costs to have my mother translate! 🙂 EdV
#145974From: Steve AhlstromMay 16, 1994 2:04 AM
Christian, No, you never uploaded it. -sja