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#Is Commodore Dead?

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#102384From: Mathew D. BergmanMay 17, 1994 9:05 PM
O.K., I don't have any way of confirming this — I haven't even checked out any Amiga forums here on CIS. What I've heard is Commodore is no more, and, I presume, so is the Amiga. What gives? Even for us 3DS users this has serious implications — What machines will Toaster buyers put their new cards in? The desktop 3D animation revolution was pretty much built on the Toaster (I'm a loyal 3DS user, no hate mail please!). While this certainly suggest more opportunities for the 3DS market, Toaster-based machines have gotten so much press lately, with their contributions to so many prime-time FX shows.
#102465From: Evan Yares [WeirdTM]May 18, 1994 4:10 AM
They're chapter 11. It remains to be seen whether the Amiga is aquired by anyone who will resurrect it.
#102471From: Gus GrubbaMay 18, 1994 5:03 AM
>> It remains to be seen whether the Amiga is aquired by anyone who will >> resurrect it… Hey, how about Osborne, or maybe DEC Rainbow, even Altair…
#102868From: SyndesisMay 19, 1994 1:04 PM
Better look over your shoulder… the demise of Atari drove the Yost Group to create 3D Studio, what will the demise of Commodore cause? At the next Siggraph, it'll be the battle between LightWave NT, 3DS/NT, Softimage NT, Alias NT, Vertigo NT, Wavefront NT, etc. And really, Commodore's been dead for a long time. When this news hit, a reporter called me for quotes, and I said, "the only thing about this that shocked me was that there were people out there who were shocked by this." All the other Amiga-related successes happened in spite of CBM, not because of them. I had one guy call me the same day, asking where he could dump five Toasters and where to go to buy 3D Studio. The other quote I delivered was along the lines that there will be more Amiga developers that ever… after all, Amigoids are notorious champions of lost causes, and now that the cause may be truly lost, they'll be more inspired than ever. 🙂 The hot rumor says that Samsung is rushing in to buy the Amiga.
#102953From: Mathew D. BergmanMay 19, 1994 11:03 PM
What's this about "the demise of Atari drove the Yost Group to create 3D Studio"? This is history I don't know. Mathew B.
#103023From: SyndesisMay 20, 1994 8:47 AM
One door closes, the other opens… Yost, Jack, Tom Hudson, Hayes, they were all working for Atari ST-related companies a few years ago. Tom's 3D experience with a product called CAD-3D no doubt lead to 3D Studio. Dan Silva and Jim Kent were doing Atari and Amiga software as well as PC software in that time frame, too. Of course, the large installed base and potentially higher profits in the PC market might've had something to do with it.
#103041From: Yost GroupMay 20, 1994 10:37 AM
We actually left the Atari world in late 1987, which was a few years before Atari went belly-up (computer-wise). Our biggest frustration with the AtariST was that it was a closed architecture system, not allowing for display expansion, etc. Being limited to 320x200x4-bits was pretty sickening, and until that time the VGA didn't exist on the PC. As soon as the VGA was announced, we were OUT OF THERE. – G
#103060From: SyndesisMay 20, 1994 11:24 AM
You left Antic in late 1987? And Atari is still around, right?
#103141From: Yost GroupMay 21, 1994 12:31 AM
I finished developing software at Antic in Dec '87 and actually left the company 2 months later. I've got no idea about Atari. I occasionally see ads for their Jaguar game machine on TV though. – G
#103159From: Mathew D. BergmanMay 21, 1994 3:40 AM
Atari is still trying — they now have Falcon, a multimedia PC-like device which has the virtue of having Super VGA and a built-in scan converter. It's been around for a year or so. I guess it has its followers. Atari has also made some bids to design the TV-top box to manage the NII when it comes to homes. Trivia question (sorry, I don't know the answer) : What package was used to design & render the Atari Falcon's 3-D logo? Certainly not an Atari!
#103174From: Yost GroupMay 21, 1994 10:25 AM
I'm amazed that the computer division still exists. Tenacity.
#102469From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIMay 18, 1994 4:53 AM
Mathew: Commodore International has indeed filed for voluntary liquidation, however the various subsidiaries are still in operation making and selling Amigas. The current rumor being spread by the marketing dept of the German subsidiary is that the Amiga portion of Commodore is being purchased by an unnamed asian company, and that an official announcement is supposed to be coming out on Friday. The Amiga, though stumbling, limping and bloodied is not quite dead yet.
#102715From: Mathew D. BergmanMay 18, 1994 10:46 PM
No, the Amiga isn't dead. It's too good a machine, and sold in spite of the company who manufactured it. It seems to me no one really ever wondered *if* Commodore would die, but rather *when*.
#102774From: Clint Woeltjen@VRLIMay 19, 1994 4:19 AM
Actually, Commodores demise may be the best thing to happen to the Amiga in a long time. Depends on who picks it up and if they run with it or just sit and sustain it. I like my Amiga 3000/040, but it shares desktop space with my 486/50, so I guess I can't be called a fanatic. <grin>