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#147015From: Russell WilliamsMay 20, 1994 1:07 AM
He's not really in the closet. There's just not a lot of demand for Amiga info in InfoWorld. -R
#147067From: Richard EricksonMay 20, 1994 2:17 AM
No, there isn't alot of demand, but it doesn't help when Infoworld says something like they got complaints from everybody who uses the Amiga in business, and both of them were really angry, or something like that. Infoworld as with most mainstream computer mags have tunnel vision on which platforms they will cover. Richard -> AutoPilot on the A1000
#147624From: Mr. ChalleronMay 22, 1994 12:13 AM
PMFJI here, but…. I remember that line; I took it as a joke. (It _was_ in one of the last-page essays.) Our OnLine Today humorist, John Edwards, also pokes fun at the Amiga, and does it quite a bit, and in much the same fashion; and although I may chafe initially (public damnation of the alien-in-our- midst), I eventually see the humor in it (well, usually). I consider humorous slander of Amigas and their users to be a good sign: There's little point in making a joke that nobody "gets"; and jokes about the Amiga in _any_ professional newsletter like InfoWorld (which isn't exactly a household name) indicate that there are still a lot of professional people who know of the Amiga (otherwise they wouldn't "get" the joke). Even where John Edwards's online essays are concerned: I've never read a "Behind The Screens" _in_ CompuServe Magazine (which every CIS subscriber gets, no matter how well or how much they use CIS) where Mr. Edwards slammed us or our chosen computers; his articles, while computer-related, tend to be rather simplistic (and occasionally dull). Online, however, his articles are slanted more toward the knowledgeable computer user (he tends to get humorously nostalgic, and nostalgic humor ONLY works on "those who have been there"), as are the back-page essays in InfoWorld (for obvious reasons). If you think about it for a moment, the sheer fact that a joke told makes you want to "set them straight" really means that they already know enough about the subject to have seen the humor in the situation. (Besides, that "everybody who has one, all two of them" joke goes at _least_ as far back as the Model T Ford.) And anyway, what _is_ "Toaster" in Korean? More to our point, what is "girlfriend" in Korean? A joke that wouldn't have been so easy to "get", perhaps?… <g> Mr. C (Amiga: Muerte O Suerte?)
#147215From: Ron LegroMay 20, 1994 4:20 PM
>There's just not a lot of demand for Amiga info in InfoWorld. But that's the old dilemma faced by responsible journalists: Do you tell 'em what they WANT to know, or what they NEED to know? I'd argue computer patrons NEEDED to know about the Amiga, or at least what it represented. Instead, they learned almost nothing reading the computer press, which is why so many computer users not only have never heard of the Amiga, but think Microsoft, Apple and IBM invented multimedia and desktop video — and you can bet THOSE folks know all about the Amiga. The computer press more and more kisses off anything that isn't in the mainstream. And they more and more celebrate complexity, as well as newness for the mere sake of being new. — Ron Legro / MILWAUKEE WI USA via AUTOPILOT ["Phun, phun, phun on the Infobahn…"]
#147226From: Richard EricksonMay 20, 1994 4:37 PM
Just got the May 16th issue, anybody have ideas what is meant by him being "secretly grateful that this tattoo landed where the sun don't shine". Is it that he doesn't think Samsung will do much with the Amiga???? Richard -> On the A1000 Autopilot, the only Amiga not to have Commodore on the front.
#147625From: Mr. ChalleronMay 22, 1994 12:13 AM
I _think_ (and this is just my opinion) that he meant that since the Amiga is so little known by the General Public (like the skin on your face), it could be to Samsung's advantage that the Commodore mismarketing "blemish" (tattoo) isn't likely to be seen (on Samsung's corporate @ss). Mr. C (Amiga: Muerte O Suerte?)
#147344From: Lu BeranekMay 21, 1994 12:49 AM
> But that's the old dilemma faced by responsible journalists: Do you tell > 'em what they WANT to know, or what they NEED to know? I'd argue > computer ………I thought that person died in '07, is there one still working somewhere? 🙂 regards, Lu on AutoPilot downunder
#147626From: Mr. ChalleronMay 22, 1994 12:13 AM
Mike Royko is permanently embalmed in Billy Goat's Tavern…. (Oops, I meant "perfectly preserved"….) (Maybe it's just "pickled"?…) Mr. C (Amiga: Muerte O Suerte?)
#147592From: Paul HigginbottomMay 21, 1994 9:10 PM
Every computer newspaper/magazine wants to cover the "latest" stuff so that they will be competitive. To do this, they rely heavily on being TOLD by the computer vendors what's new. Commodore's PR was PATHETIC, so the press basically never heard about the Amiga. I wouldn't blame the press for the lack of Amiga coverage.
#147627From: Mr. ChalleronMay 22, 1994 12:14 AM
Actually the press in general, if I may paraphrase from your post, "more and more celebrate celebrity". They didn't do this by choice; people used to WANT hard news (from which came "responsible journalism"). And then the hard news got too hard to take, and people decided they wanted fluff instead of fact from the media, and that's how news turned into People Magazine…. (BTW: Has anyone out here ever figured out what Zsa Zsa Gabor ever did that caused her to become a "Celebrity"?…) And magazines themselves (especially the glossy ones which cost a fortune to print) are driven by their advertisers, not their readers (Trust me on this; I used to write "how-to" and product-review articles and I know firsthand how often the word "not" gets edited out of "This Product Did Not Meet Expectations" when the Product's manufacturer buys a full-page ad that month): Would you seriously expect a magazine so boot- licking as to be named "Windows" to review a computer that makes the fastest Windows-based computers look like slugs? Tell you what: Next time you see a "Computing Magazine" by any name with an overly-fawning review of a MicroSoft product in it, flip through that particular issue and see how many full-page MicroSoft ads are in it, and then think about whether or not MicroSoft bought that glowing review by pumping a few hundred thousand bucks into the advertising coffers…. "News? Who cares about news? We're here to make a profit." (attributed to Rupert Murdoch) Mr. C (Amiga: Muerte O Suerte?)