CompuServe Thread

Cool CDROMs

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#104967From: krazy imagesMay 31, 1994 4:56 PM
Don, Changing completely the subject but keeping with CDs. I am amazed how things have changed in a few months about CD-ROMs. They are slow but who cares? CDROMs are the best thing since the invention of 3DS <g> However, I know of only a few that really fulfills my list of what a good CDROM should be. A few games and a few educational titles. Nevertheless, there is a CD that is, IMHO, a true piece of art and awesome design condensed in 600MB: Explora by Peter Gabriel. Either if you like his work or not (personally I am a fan and I think that, with David Byrne, he is the only musician who have mixed and transformed technology in a succesful way), you will love this CD. The elegance of the design is one of the few examples of translating the spirit of vanguard design in paper to a computer medium, and creating a totally new thing. And the best thing after enjoying the design: you will have fun. Well, after this fanatic introduction (I am really happy for finding a real cool CD -even better than 7thGuest and Myst), did you see the CD running at comdex? (as you see, I have spent a 1K introduction for a yes/no question 🙂 Anyone have find this jewel of the computer era? I bet that it will a hit at Siggraph. ana /krazy images ps.After experiencing Explora I can't wait for Jean Giraud "Moebius" StarWatcher virtual reality theme park (yeah, on a Pentium at 150MHz <g>) Anyone here is a Moebius fan?
#104980From: ROBERT RITGERMay 31, 1994 6:34 PM
Ana: O.K. O.K. the bit on the PPC was tolerable, the spewage about pornography I even tolerated but to say: "Explora by Peter Gabriel. Either if you like his work or not (personally I am a fan and I think that, with David Byrne, he is the only musician who have mixed and transformed technology in a succesful way)" you have managed to discount the efforts of Les Paul(mixed electricity with a guitar), Robert Moog (inventor of the Moog synthesizer), Godley and Creme (produced a bunch of your favorite rock videos as well as a string of cool albums), Todd Rundgren (recorded the first album made of sounds sampled entirely of sounds he produced vocally -not to be confused with acappella- and is the only musician I know of who performs music live *and* controls interactively a complete video projection system which is tied to a bunch of Amigas via a video toaster), and everyone in between. Your view of music and technology is extraordinarily narrow to plop your opinions here in the ASOFT forum without expecting to get flamed as a result. Sorry, :-{ I just couldn't let your message go by as I was just listening to Godley and Creme's album Freeze Frame. Bob
#104989From: krazy imagesMay 31, 1994 7:56 PM
Then you and me doesn't have the same idea of high technology and art, sorry. Not to talk about tastes. Certainly Gabriel and Byrne are one of my favorite musicians but if you want a list of vinils here (which are still bigger than the CD collection) and favorite musicians I can give you 2MBs in any database file format. IMHO, both Gabriel and Byrne are the only ones who have developed strong ties to visual high technology. I have not seen LesPaul or Creme in Art Futura, sorry, althought I have quite a few LPs of them. Check Explora and you will be closer to what I mean with "ties to high technology", not only samples, synthesizers, Amigas and Toasters. I think that you are the closed mind here. My point was about the use of multiple media and technologies to convey a message, rather than only sound experimentation (which, as a purist, I have to admit that most times escape from my understanding – I am of those who thought in the past that the only good synthesizer was the one that was unplugged- it is a question of taste). We all have our favorites, Robert. I have arround 5000 favorites and all of them are in the top. From Dogs d'Amour to Led Zep, from old Queen to U2, from Primus to Anthrax, from the Beatles to the Rolling Stones, from SoundGarden to Tom Waits, from Byrne to Gabriel, from Pink Floyd to ACDC, from the Sex Pistols to Thin Lizzy, from Barrikada to Rosendo to many other underground European groups that will never appear in the MTV, from… well, should I start with the Duke, Amstrong, BBKing and the gang? Trust me, get explora and the latest Art Futura tape to check what my previous message meant. And get also the reverse side of technology, latest Waits. hey! I want to play the bones and I wanna a Ride too! Bye, ana /krazy images
#105003From: ROBERT RITGERMay 31, 1994 9:26 PM
Ana: Neither David Byrne or Peter Gabriel has the mulitimedia skills that are present in Todd Rundgren. With lotsa outside help Byrne and Gabriel may produce an awesome multimedia CD-ROM but only Rundgren has the knowledge and required skills to perform both video and audio in a live performance and I'd suggest he's by far the most competent of the three with a computer. I am saying this after seeing a special about his work which included an interview segment where he spun the dials, flipped the switches and twiddled the ivories and produced his high technology audio/visual multimedia show. I am not arguing preference as I do not own a single disk by Todd Rundgren although I have heard a good portion of his work dating back to the Nazz. However, I own a pile of Byrne/Byrne-Eno/T-heads and Gabriel/Genesis and I can assure you that your broad stroke is in error if you believe that "Gabriel and Byrne are the only ones who have developed strong ties to visual high technology." Hell, even Graham Nash has a bunch of IRIS printers at his company Nash Editions! So, you see, there are a few musicians that have strong ties to visual high technology unless you do not consider print media high technology. As far as who has developed strong ties to visual technology you have every right to believe as you do but you are in error. As far as getting the latest Waits, I don't think I can listen to that marble mouth voice of his. I'll probably pick up something sweet like the new Sarah McLaughlin (sp?) disk. Maybe it'll be Nine Inch Nails, now there's a band with some multi talented individuals. Bob
#105113From: Tyler ColwellJun 1, 1994 12:05 PM
<…Gabriel and Byrne are one of my favorite musicians…> That would be… uh… two.
#105166From: krazy imagesJun 1, 1994 5:07 PM
yeah, two, whatever, it was 4:00AM here in Europe when I posted that message 🙂 ana /krazy images
#105234From: Kurt McKeeverJun 1, 1994 10:14 PM
Hi Ana, PMJI, I just wanted to say that Gabriel an Byrne are at the top of my list. 3rd and 4th would be Adrian Belew and Danny Elfman. Kurt
#105603From: Brent BonetJun 3, 1994 11:33 AM
I personally would switch those around and put Elfman followed by Belew at the top instead of Byrne and Gabriel…..you were close though <g>. Brent Bonet – POP! Multimedia Atlanta
#105612From: Kurt McKeeverJun 3, 1994 1:04 PM
I was early for an adrian belew show (Mr.Musichead) at the Roxy and this guy bummed a smoke from me out front only to realize a second later it was belew himself.
#105649From: Brent BonetJun 3, 1994 4:32 PM
The Roxy in Atlanta? I was working on a multimedia project last fall in Milwaukee and saw him at a little tiny dive called Shank Hall in an acoustic set (He apparently lives in nearby Lake Geneva, WI). It was incredible…especially when he did Frame By Frame. Brent Bonet – POP! Multimedia Atlanta
#105658From: Kurt McKeeverJun 3, 1994 5:50 PM
THE Roxy in LA. Frame by frame is one of my favorites. You've heard all The Bears right? the Eno stuff? Talking Heads?
#105633From: David J. MarksJun 3, 1994 2:27 PM
>> Elfman followed by Belew at the top… Just curious what Elfman has done besides Oingo Boingo, the Simpson's theme and Beetlejuice… Can you recommend an Oingo Boingo album for new Elfman fans?
#105650From: Brent BonetJun 3, 1994 4:32 PM
I'd recommend any of the early LP's. I can't remember the names of them since my LP collection got ripped off a couple of years ago. The first LP is Only A Lad, and any of the next two are excellent….I wish I could remember the names! Brent Bonet – POP! Multimedia Atlanta
#105659From: Kurt McKeeverJun 3, 1994 5:56 PM
<< The first LP is Only A Lad, and any of the next two are excellent….I wish I could remember the names! Brent Bonet – POP! Multimedia Atlanta>> Good for your Soul, Nothing to Fear, BOI-NGO, Dead Man's Party…… LP? CD!<G>
#105689From: Brent BonetJun 3, 1994 9:10 PM
Yeah, I was truly psyched up till BOIN-GO. After that they were merely great!! Brent
#105730From: David J. MarksJun 4, 1994 10:00 AM
>> Good for your Soul, Nothing to Fear, BOI-NGO, Dead Man's Party…… If you had to save your pennies for more 3DS goodies, which ONE album would you pick as a favorite?
#105682From: krazy imagesJun 3, 1994 8:19 PM
Kurt, Hey, did you check Explora? From what I hear, Interplay will release it for the PC. You will love it. It is the best CDROM ever. In fact, it gives CDROM and multimedia its true meaning. I am really impressive. As for tops of the list… well, I have horizontal list of favorites. That way, all of them are at the top <g> ana /krazy images
#105693From: Kurt McKeeverJun 3, 1994 10:06 PM
What is Explora? I've heard there is a good Peter Gabriel CD and a Todd Rundgren interactive. (both for the mac) I'm wating for the PC. ^ ? Kurt
#105857From: krazy imagesJun 5, 1994 7:03 AM
Explora 1 is the Peter Gabriel's CDROM (only for the Mac 🙁 ana /krazy images
#105976From: Evan Yares [WeirdTM]Jun 6, 1994 4:19 AM
Actually, Les Paul didn't invent the electric Guitar. He was predated by Fender, who was predated by Rikenbaker {sp} Evan
#105085From: David J. MarksJun 1, 1994 10:04 AM
>> Explora by Peter Gabriel. PMJI, but I believe it only runs on the Mac for now. I have heard it's simply fantastic, but I really can't afford a Mac to run it on. If you hear anything about a PC version, please let me know.
#105720From: krazy imagesJun 4, 1994 7:34 AM
I will. It seems that Interplay will release it for Windows. It is based is Hypercard, so I am a little eskeptical about it. I am sure you will be able to play with it at Siggraph. It is a truly great experience. The real meaning of multimedia. I'm exploraholic now 🙂 ana /krazy images
#105174From: Don LandisJun 1, 1994 5:38 PM
Ana, I must be a complete bore for someone like you as I don't really care for the multimedia CDroms, games etc. I have lots of CD's but they are directories and other databases, encyclopedias, guides like family doctor etc. The best CD-s are the ones that run without hard drive space requirements. Yes they are slow but getting the kinds of information, even on CIS takes longer. I do have some multimedia CDs but find them a little too much flash and not enough backbone. Remember the CD Sherlock Holmes? I loved that one because of the way it worked but the game was god awful boring. My favorite CD is the coreldraw clipart from 3.0. I actually bought a dedicated drive for that one so I could have it full access on my network. I have 3 CD drives here and 2 are multimedia capable. BTW the answer is no. <g> Didn't spend any time at all looking at games.
#105721From: krazy imagesJun 4, 1994 7:34 AM
The CD is not a game. More like a kind of a exploration of gabriel's "secret world" (well, not so secret 🙂 I don't have time too much time for playing games, running fancy dinosaurs encyclopedias 🙂 and getting lost in 3D imaginary worlds, but I like to explore everything I can, from books to videos to CDs. If there is someone in the information highway running at Mach 3, that's me <g> ana /krazy images